Something is special about Pollard when he can get fans excited about mediocre teams.
I personally enjoy the fact that I always know more about their teams then they do.
Are Iowa fans so elite that they just show up when the team is good and/or they're playing marquee opponents?
Who cares!? Why do so many on this board give a crap how many people show up to EIU games? Yes, it's funny and pathetic but let's quit obsessing. Also, I hate defending a hawk fan but it's not SH's fault the fans aren't showing up. I don't think he was making excuses either, just mentioned maybe the university could have done more to promote the team.
Here is the difference between Iowa and ISU fans:
Year 1 - Greg McDermott. Team is picked to finish last in the Big 12. Average paid attendance for the year is 12,489...25th in the nation.
Hawk fans portray themselves as all high and mighty and they say they are some of the best fans in the nation. That is total BS and this is just one of several points to prove it.
Also, many of my friends are Hawk fans and we talk sports all of the time. So yes, I do give a crap what's going on over there. You may not, but many people do.
Wasn't it you who was complaining about how dismal the Hilton Crowd was during the Minnesota game? http://www.cyclonefanatic.com/forum/mens-basketball/16550-hilton-last-night.html#post253424
Also, I watched ISU play UNI, and heard of the Centenary and Winston-Salem crowds. Not many people in the seats, and not a lot of cheering.
I'm not arguing that ISU has had more people there - because they have. Probably about 5,000 more people per game. But with as dismal as Iowa's attendance has been, ISU's hasn't been anything to brag about. You can argue paid attendance all you want - Iowa has 9,500 people paying, but about 5,000 people not showing up.
ISU is having about the same problem, aren't they? According to cyclones.com, ISU is averaging a paid attendance this year at around 14,000. Not too shabby. But they're is no way that they've averaged much more than 10,000 people in the stands per game.
And to head this off before I get blasted - no I haven't gone to games. I've watched a few on TV, but if you do a search on this site and look at posts from people who have gone to games, almost every thread has a complaint about how "lame the Hilton Crowd was last night", or how there were so many empty seats, etc...
I don't disagree. I'm just saying, both teams are having this problem of people buying tickets, and then not showing up. While the problem may not be as bad at ISU this season, the fact is that still about 5,000 fans pay and don't show up.I'll take 14K paying and 10K coming over 10K paying and 5K coming anyday.
Maybe, but "lame" at Hilton still beats a sellout at CHA. Wait, has there ever been a sellout at CHA??:biggrin:
Wasn't it you who was complaining about how dismal the Hilton Crowd was during the Minnesota game? http://www.cyclonefanatic.com/forum/mens-basketball/16550-hilton-last-night.html#post253424
Also, I watched ISU play UNI, and heard of the Centenary and Winston-Salem crowds. Not many people in the seats, and not a lot of cheering.
Thats just typical hawk fans. They are great to their teams when they win (hence I thought their wrestling crowd was great for being on the road) and they abandon ship when their teams struggle. It's like they don't want to be associated when the team is losing. They have this sense of entitlement that they deserve to win because they're hawkeyes.
of course this isn't ALL their fans, just a lot I've known over the years.
Never, not ONCE did anyone say ISU fans were were filling the joint up during rough seasons.
However, as noted, 10k attendance > 5k attendance....7 days a week.
I've been disappointed over attendance to some games last year and one or two this year. I certainly have not been sick over the lack of fans in the seats though - which is how I would feel if I was a Hawk fan looking around CHA.
I was complaining about having only 10,000 actual people there (without school in session). Iowa fans should be complaining that they can't get 10,000 PAID people there. Huge difference.
Minnesota game attendance was 13,709. I was complaining that only 10,000 or so showed up (73% of paid attendance). Iowa is averaging 9,119 and 4,658 showing up (51%). Again, a huge difference.
You do realize that the Iowa State WOMEN are averaging more people per game than your men's team right? :biglaugh:
The paid vs. attendance numbers...oh...tossing out the same 5k.
What about the percentage relationship?
And there is no way there were anywhere close to 5k fans at the Hawkeye challenge games...which is on the same level as the Centenary and Winston-Salem games you keep bringing up.