Maybe but we have made a living off taking the “not so great kids “ the last 15 years
BDJ
Royce white
Chris Allen
Corey Lucious
Deondre Kane
Just to name a few.
Jeremiah Williams to the transfer portal.
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Maybe but we have made a living off taking the “not so great kids “ the last 15 years
BDJ
Royce white
Chris Allen
Corey Lucious
Deondre Kane
Just to name a few.
TJ and cyclone MBB is superior in every way to franny and the sukeye project….that thing is just awful
Yes. You see it on the court as well. He often disrupted the flow of Creighton's offense. He's talented though for sure so someone will (over)pay for him.
Deondre needed direction in his life and his mom wanted to get him away from the city/and maybe he was feisty, but I've never considered him a "not so great kid". Was told by people connected to the team he was a good guy. Same with BDJ actually. He treated others well, except for when drinking was involved . Sometimes I think we tend to label players when we don't know their struggles growing up. I'm sure I'm not the only one who knows people that have had substance abuse issues who are some of the nicest guys.
He doesn't really fill a need for Iowa St, except experience in the front court. He can't play the 5. At the 4, Tre King is 75%, to potentially the same production, as Kaluma. Also Omaha should be a better defender and rebounder, and Milan has the potential to be a better shooter and scorer.
I think both things can be true in this case. Make no mistake Kane and BDJ had reputations as being trouble or a "not so great kid". However Fred (or maybe more likely TJ) saw something in those guys that alot of other people didn't which is where your point comes in. I think they both disproved their reputations and showed the be good guys and assets to their respective teams.
Your disclaimer of BDJ treating others well except when drinking was involved shows you understand this is true.
Both had baggage.
Kane worked out fine.
BDJ... did not.
We've only had bits and pieces of information as to why.
A whole lot of judgements seem to be based solely on message board chatter and body language (the former often based on the latter).
CycloneErik
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Personally, I need to know more about their sweat levels than anything else.
I've only heard bits and pieces, but the impression I got from people in the know was BDJ was a big problem in the locker room at the end of the season.
Bill Simmons used to have a bit about how it was OK to have one knucklehead on a team, but if you had two, they would start hanging out together and that’s one when the problems start - very similar to Paul Rhoads’ comments about a jackass farm. The 2014-15 team had a solid core with great talent, and probably two too many knuckleheads.
Good spot for Williams. Close to home and he won't need to play right away this year as he ramps up from the injury.
While I agree, seems like all those things could of occurred here and the narrative when he announced he was leaving was its his last year wanted to go somewhere he would be a bigger piece. Will be interested to see how it plays off, wish him the best seemed like a good teammate.
Well maybe but TJ adding Pav and Gilbert plus the incoming combo guards freshman the next two years the path to playing time is waaay clearer at Illinois. IMO.
Strange on the surface but poster above nailed it with rehabbing. Assume he is for sure not playing this year?
