JP kicked out of game at Gilbert?
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Not sure who the refs were for this game, but someone told me that they had kicked somebody else out when they played CMB.
True and the majority of people who yell at referees would also qualify. Whether they think they need to be a tough guy and say, "Crappy calls like this don't happen in my gym! I'm going to do something about it!" or they're just someone who ******* to *****, they've got major insecurity issues.
This story is all over the place nationally but none of the articles mention the ref's name. They probably drug him out of some bar in Mingo to ref.
Think about this one...its a high school game. They aren't being paid squat. They are doing this because they love the game. How many people that gripe about officials actually step up and say, "ok, I'm going to do this." Its a thankless job. I actually took a year off from coaching just to officiate so I could feel and experience the other side. Its not fun.
Or they are just drunk. Come on man, you need a chill pill. Nothing wrong with this:
Wow.. Pollard was looking a little rough attending the game like that. I heard he even ran onto the floor to protest.
Wow, I remembered my password. Anyway, I'm a current ISU student and graduated from Colfax-Mingo two years ago. My sister is on the girls' team and was at the game. Basically, she said it was totally overblown and Pollard just said it was a terrible call and nothing more. Pollard probably didn't deserve it, but I hate parents who treat HS games like the Final Four. My dad gets so worked up over GIRLS' games (but didn't for mine?) and has been kicked out multiple times in the same gym by the same principal. The refs probably had it out for Pollard, but to treat the refereeing of a regular season Class 1A Iowa High School Basketball game like the end of the world is idiotic.
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fact is, when you throw a paying customer out of a game you have resigned yourself to the fact that you are no longer in control of your emotions and therefore not in control of the game. UNLESS, a patron is being profane, you need to keep your eye on the ball and ref the game. Years ago refs never threw people out. Its the "all about me" mindset that plagues many people today. ITS NOT about the refs. Its all about the game. Quit trying to be more than you are. We shouldn't even remember you if you are controlling the game. JP has the right to complain as we all do if we feel you are calling a lousy game. IF you can't take the abuse, then get out. You knew what you were in for before you put on the whistle.
Although the tone of your post is a bit harsh you have hit on an important point here. My goal for every game I officiate is to not be noticed. I want to be like the waiter who slips you a drink refill before you know you're running low. If at the end of the night I know that no one is going home talking about the officials, good or bad, I am happy.
Any word on whether the ref regularly does games in Colfax? Our high school, the freshman game refs are coaches and teachers in our district and the biggest homers ever, but we circulate the refs for jv and varsity from other places.
Was at an away game once where the ref got hurt and they actually let one of our fans who was a certified ref come out of the stands and finish the game.
This story is all over the place nationally but none of the articles mention the ref's name. They probably drug him out of some bar in Mingo to ref.
Hey! I'm sure the ref was in the kitchen with everyone else and didn't see a thing!!
Agree with the first part, strongly disagree with the latter part. We can agree to disagree but just because you are a paying customer at high school sporting event does not give you the right to berate someone ad nauseum without some sort of repercussion.
I didnt say JP was making a spectacle at all... In fact i cant imagine that he did. My post was a generality about parents that do, since some replies in this thread acted like it was cool to do so.
I in no way condone aggressiveness/name calling/taunting, but having fans and coaches complain about calls is part of the job you signed up for. If you can't handle some booing and complaining, quit reffing and have a past time that doesn't require as thick of skin. Parents and fans are passionate about their teams, I'm not going to ask them to stop so a ref can feel better about himself.
Iowa State AD apologizes after getting kicked out of high school game
When asked if Pollard was single out as a public figure the Colfax super wouldn't speculate.
When asked if Pollard was single out as a public figure the Colfax super wouldn't speculate.
This story is all over the place nationally but none of the articles mention the ref's name. They probably drug him out of some bar in Mingo to ref.
There's only one bar in Mingo, and it's run by the lunch ladies at the middle school in Mingo. The HS is in Colfax. This is all true, I used to teach in that district.
No one has said that you shouldn't boo. I expect to get boos because I'm going to make calls that 50% of the crowd likes and the other 50% doesn't. You don't have to be an *** hole to be passionate. Is Coach Hoiberg not passionate because he doesn't scream and yell? How about Brad Stevens? Tony Dungy?As soon as it becomes personal you should be escorted from the gym. Whether the referee is paid or not it's called maturity and the vast majority of people have it. The insecure few who don't have it are cowards who would rather sit in the bleachers and yell from a distance and I will all but guarantee they wouldn't stand next to me on the floor and say some of the things which are said.
It's no different than ripping players on this board. Not a person here would have walked up to Chris Babb in December and said you're an absolutely awful shooter. Put them in the crowd or behind a screen name and they become a tough guy.
Everyone thinks they're an official until they actually put on the stripes and their perspective changes. Officials aren't out to get people. Most of us are just normal guys who enjoy the game and are making a little bit of money to workout. I actually have fun chatting with players while we're lining up free throws or getting ready to inbound the ball. Unfortunately some people forget that the game is still about having fun and appropriate sportsmanship at the high school level and they ruin it for everyone involved.
Like anything else, there are proper and improper ways to handle things. Want to throw your clipboard and stuff because you thought you didn't get the call? Great. You're probably getting a T and the next time you want the benefit of the doubt you aren't getting it.
Now if you talk to me while I'm standing on the floor in front of you and don't make a scene you're going to get much better cooperation from me. I'm not going to make some egregious call for you but if you want an explanation of what I saw, I'll be more than happy to give it to you and most of the time the coach will smile and say I gotcha. Yes the block was clean off the backboard but the defender went through the shooter and that's why the foul was called.
Like I said earlier, I used to be the "rip the officials every chance you get" type and it's embarrassing to me looking back. I didn't have a clue what the official's job actually entailed. I didn't know the rules nearly as much as I thought I did.
