David, that’s probably because anytime someone who has been mentioned in that conversation…….has had rings and titles.
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David, that’s probably because anytime someone who has been mentioned in that conversation…….has had rings and titles.
Yup. I don't think Travis is wrong - I do think a lot of these black commentators don't want to put Clark on the GOAT line because she's white. And that IS racist.
But when you compare the level of racism that white people might endure to the level of racism that black people might endure, it's a freaking joke. Get over it Mr Justice. Caitlin's going to be just fine. She didn't get her flowers from some media members, not murdered by some neighborhood watch douche because she wore a hoodie.
Some of us have super hearing. It's a blessing and a curse.
I can hear about 10 different conversations in my cube farm right now.
I think racism, bigotry, sexism, etc all happen in every direction. There is no doubt about that. Just because a person is in the majority doesn't mean they aren't sometimes looked down upon or held to a different standard by somebody in a minority. But it's much harder to feel sympathy when it happens in that scenario when at the same time a year ago the exact opposite was very clearly happening... and much more obviously.
You know why Clark is considered a role model, despite having a terrible attitude that I wouldn't want any young player to emulate?
Doesn't count when 9 of them are coming from inside your headSome of us have super hearing. It's a blessing and a curse.
I can hear about 10 different conversations in my cube farm right now.
People in the majority, while capable of being victims of racism, generally have all sorts of buffers that severely limit the damage that comes from it. Caitlin's a great example. This won't effect her draft status, endorsements, or anything like that. It's just talking heads that don't want to give her credit for a the wrong reason.
It’s pretty rough to grow up in suburbia and be able to afford private schools, AAU teams and travel, camps and coaches.
I think there is probably resentment that this level of hype has eclipsed that of very worthy players in the past, although some of them, such as Breanna Stewart, are also white. She also had a very different childhood than CC. So it may be an issue of privilege rather than race for some.
I guess we’ll see how ESPN decides to sell women’s basketball next year.
Because she’s a native Iowan playing at U of I and the DMR writers are cheerleaders and the local talent on KXnO is 99% Iowa fans. I don’t think it’s necessarily as much racial as a lot people believe. The role model narrative probably doesn’t exist outside Iowa.
Maybe we just wait and see what happens next year in the WNBA before declaring she is the GOAT. At this time there are a number of players in that league who could be considered the GOAT.
I am surprised Murph could stop yanking his crank to his Caitlin's Crunch Cereal box long enough to eaves drop on 1 conversation let alone 5.
The GOAT stuff is so ******* stupid. No one ever agreed on the GOAT in any sport. It’s subjective. People enjoy debating it. Is it legit to think Clark is the GOAT? Of course. Is it legit to think someone else is? You’re damn right.
We debate the GOAT of Iowa state basketball for god’s sake. Of course not everyone in the whole damn world will think Clark is the GOAT of all of women’s basketball.
Jesus.
We debate the GOAT of Iowa state basketball for god’s sake. Of course not everyone in the whole damn world will think Clark is the GOAT of all of women’s basketball.
Jesus.
I'm pretty sure there was something during the national championship about her being a "role model" as one of her career accomplishments
There is something to Travis's post. Eikholt's post is really stupid. Why doesn't Charles Barkley ever come up? John Stockton? Malone? Pistol Pete? Dan Marino? There is a reason David. There is a reason.
None. But what I said was we debate who was is the GOAT of Iowa State basketball. Is it Grayer? Is it Fizer? Is it Tinsley? Is it Georges?
If we debate that relatively minor thing, I'm not sure why it is surprising that not everyone thinks Clark is the GOAT of all.
Sounds like a **** place to workSome of us have super hearing. It's a blessing and a curse.
I can hear about 10 different conversations in my cube farm right now.
I would say no to Clark. No defense. No championship. Tons of turnovers. I would say she is one of, if not the greatest offensive player in women's college basketball history. I would also put her high on the list of greatest of all time. Thee greatest? No.
Most of the shows just bring in another hok like that Bill Blank guy, Sipker, Eickholt, or more recently AD.
I actually kinda agree with him, but it's interesting he's totally fine playing the race card when he spends 99% of his life discounting racism and those who call it out.
