***Official 2020-2021 Transfer Thread***
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Honestly Grill has the same trajec as Naz long. Max averaged less than 2 points his freshman season and 7 his sophomore season. Grill is slightly above that his sophomore season. Not everyone is a star. You need the Grill type players also. Tyrese Hunter will be a star and Rasir will be better if he stays since he won’t have to play out of position
I mean Matt was trash for almost the entirety of his 1st two years in Ames.
An 0-18 team is not going to be able to fill up on six 15ppg transfers. Be realistic man.
Sometimes it’s more about players that fit your system and the culture you’re trying to build than it is about a huge upgrade in talent. Talent is one piece of the pie....but there are other things like work ethic, IQ, being a team player, attitude and effort. These things can often be just as if not more important. With that said his current potential additions do have plenty of talent despite what you may think. I’ll take the side of a coach that’s been evaluating talent his whole life....and has proven successful in doing so. Sit back and let the man build what he’s trying to build..... there are plenty of elements to this puzzle we don’t have access to, you’re just seeing a small piece and jumping to conclusions.
i’d like for him to expect to start. Just because we don’t think he deserves to doesn’t mean we don’t want guys to think they can.
I think some on here give Grill a massive bump because Prohm stinks. Why so much more excited for him than this year’s frosh class? Apply the same “bonus” to them, and we’d have an all-conference set of starters.
Somebody let TJ know we need talent to win games.
TJ definitely likes Caleb. He led the Rebels in minutes played and the roster included Jenkins who was a Summit League 1st Teamer under TJ at SDSU.
One thing that seems to be overlooked is Caleb is athletic and great hops for a 6'3" kid. Grill shot 34% from 3. No guarantees, but with 3 years to play would not surprise me if he isn't a 40% 3 point shooter in a couple years. He also had a quick release in UNLV games I watched and wasn't shy about shooting.
IMO comparing sophomore Matt Thomas to sophomore Caleb Grill isn't too far off and I think Caleb is quicker and a better jumper.
One thing that seems to be overlooked is Caleb is athletic and great hops for a 6'3" kid. Grill shot 34% from 3. No guarantees, but with 3 years to play would not surprise me if he isn't a 40% 3 point shooter in a couple years. He also had a quick release in UNLV games I watched and wasn't shy about shooting.
IMO comparing sophomore Matt Thomas to sophomore Caleb Grill isn't too far off and I think Caleb is quicker and a better jumper.
Were we watching the same Matt Thomas? lol He was almost strictly catch and shoot for the better part of 2 or 3 years, and after that, you started getting maybe a little bit of off the dribble pull up stuff.
I don't remember Matt creating much of anything his first 2 years.
Matt wasn’t playing behind anyone at the start of his career. He started 15 games as a freshman and struggled enough that Fred kept reducing his minutes. He started 0 games as a sophomore. Matt really improved his junior year. That was Prohm’s first and when TJ came back. I think TJ’s presence had a lot to do with Matt’s refound confidence. And I think Matt said so.
I remember having this opinion of Matt Thomas his Soph. year and now he makes roughly 40x what I make a year. I got that one wrong.
All those midrange jumpers in his highlights would have been awesome to see....
I would welcome Grill if TJ thinks it’s a good fit and he wants to be here. The hardest part about turning a program around is getting your team to buy into the new culture you need to succeed. I have to imagine TJ would value Grill because he clearly believes in what his vision is for his teams, otherwise he wouldn’t have followed him like he has.
I think Grill could be a role player for us that also helps to move our program in the right direction. Some of you seem to think we’re going to get a bunch of MacDonalds AAs coming off a winless conference season and are going to be severely disappointed. I think a realistic goal will be 6-8 wins with a solid group of players that we can build with going forward.
Coach Campbell had to do the same thing his first couple years and some panicked because some poor fitting talented players didn’t want to buy in. Sucked to see people leave but the payoff has been amazing and hindsight is 20-20.
I think Grill could be a role player for us that also helps to move our program in the right direction. Some of you seem to think we’re going to get a bunch of MacDonalds AAs coming off a winless conference season and are going to be severely disappointed. I think a realistic goal will be 6-8 wins with a solid group of players that we can build with going forward.
Coach Campbell had to do the same thing his first couple years and some panicked because some poor fitting talented players didn’t want to buy in. Sucked to see people leave but the payoff has been amazing and hindsight is 20-20.
