Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but there have been several teams build new stadiums since the Brewers park opened in 2001.
Pro Iowa Soccer - Krause Development
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but there have been several teams build new stadiums since the Brewers park opened in 2001.
Agreed. Ask St Louis how that turned out with the Rams. They were on the hook for $280 mil when they build the Edward Jones dome in 1995 and still owed $100 mil on it in 2015 (2017 article is my reference) I don't blame Oakland for not wanting to fund new stadiums for the Raiders and A's either. I don't see how this is going to be popular in Iowa either. This is just me but I would much rather catch an I-Cubs, Barnstormers, Wolves, or even a hockey game in person before I would ever pay money to see a soccer game and probably could find a lot of other non-sports events like concerts that would make that list too over a pro soccer game.
Sure, the leagues have different history. So what? The question is how will a AAA soccer team draw in Des Moinew. I would guess quite a bit less than AAA baseball draws in Des Moines.
And the attendance numbers certainly don't back up MLS anywhere close to MLB at this point. From Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Soccer_attendance
For 2019 MLB was drawing 28k per game to 21k for MLS. But when you look at the number of teams and games that gap explodes with total annual attendance of 68M for MLB to 8M for MLS. Attendance was down slightly for both leagues over the prior year.
The DICO site where this is being built has limited uses due to it being an EPA site.. So I'm ok with my tax dollars cleaning up a massive eyesore for our capital city.
The surrounding development plans that Kyle Krause has proposed is quite spectacular. If 75% of it gets built. This is a massive win in my book
The surrounding development plans that Kyle Krause has proposed is quite spectacular. If 75% of it gets built. This is a massive win in my book
Scheduled to break ground in October with the first game in 2024
For. Soccer. ? ? ? Oh my goodness.
MLB average attendance in 2019 = 28,300
MLS average attendance in 2019 = 20,300
That's either pretty embarrassing for MLB or people saying MLS is some scrub minor league offering that's light years behind MLB don't have much of a clue.
Show me some real statistics on attendance numbers between baseball and soccer in the US on a professional and minors leagues then we can talk. Attendance may be on the decline for baseball but their attendance numbers and financials I would guess still kick the crap out of soccer. Even the casual fan is still going to take their kids to a minor league game and buy a hot dog and popcorn before they would a soccer game.
Yes, it’s just you. The anti soccer dip ***** can stfu with their opinions.
Yeah, that isn't even close to true.
https://ballparkdigest.com/2017/03/31/mlb-ballparks-from-oldest-to-newest/
11 stadiums have opened since the Brewers stadium opened in 2001. And Pittsburgh opened a new stadium that same year in 2001. There were 3 new parks opened in 2000. That gives you 16 teams opening new parks since 2000, half of the teams in MLB.
This actually makes my point. Soccer fans are so in your face about 'you should like the world's game!' to a level where I don't see any fans of hockey, lacrosse, or other sports do this ever - anywhere. Why do soccer fans do this?
Soccer in Iowa (i'm sorry) is like putting a vegan grocery store in Lincoln Nebraska. It's forcing it.
I'd go to pro soccer, would never use my own money to go to I-Cubs, Barnstormers, or Wolves. I'd rather pay more for better seats at ISU than go to minor league football or basketball in addition. I'd rather mow my lawn with scissors than watch baseball. I guess we cancel each other out.
You'd be wrong. In 2019 the LA Dodgers were the top drawing MLB club averaging 49k per game. Atlanta United FC in the MLS averaged 52.5k per game.
How many soccer matches are there each season for MLS clubs vs. games played by MLB teams?
I dont give a **** about whether mouth breathers like soccer or not. Just keep your hillbilly opinions about soccer out of a soccer theead.
I agree the MLS can overtake baseball.
At that point it will still be below the pecking order of: NFL, College FBall, College Hoops, the NBA, the NHL.
Not saying this development is a bad thing. But, your attendance comparison is comparing 162 games/year versus 34 matches/year.
In any event, why does soccer versus baseball versus basketball always have to turn into a pissing contest? Can't we all like multiple sports and/or let people enjoy their own preferences? Any active team sport is a lot better than the real future of our children -- e-sports.
Totally agree. The baseball guys get threatened.
And I would bet you the Dodgers easily made more money if you compared their financials. Attendance is not the only thing that drives revenue
You're probably right on financials. But you said attendance as well in your earlier post.
