Saw someone mention that a source is saying this is the tip of the iceberg for Big Ten expansion and mentioned to look out for Stanford, Oregon, Kansas and TCU
While the buff's are traitors, I live 20 minutes from Folsom Field, so I'm ok with us taking CU back.I’m curious why everyone is automatically ok with CU - they left the big xii.
My vote is ASU, UofA, Stanford and Cal. (Assuming UW and Oregon go BIG).
If the Big 10 and SEC go 20+ teams we wouldn't have to worry about it. We wouldn't be competing with the mid-tier. We'd be competing at a completely different level down. Honestly would probably kill any remaining affinity I have for college sports but whatever.
Just catching up…
1 - Those that are gleefully laughing that this isn’t the Big 12 don’t realize this is just one more domino in a long chain. While I don’t see most, if any, of the Big 12 being a poaching target for any potential super leagues, we also aren’t going to be able to remain stationary and may already be a little flat footed. ACC and Pac 12 won’t die quietly without every effort.
2 - To those that think we never should have added the 4 we just did – remember that we didn’t know the future, and it was incredibly vital for any stability. Not sure the remaining 8 could have stayed together without immediate stability.
3 - Personally, and I said it with the last round when many thought it was a possibility and our goal – I have never liked the idea of us joining the Big 10 now or ever. This will only make that clearer.
We compete much better with mid-tier programs and are better off trying to fight each year in that realm than keeping pace with Ohio State, Michigan, USC, Texas, Oklahoma, etc. In order to stay relevant, we need to stay competitive with strong peers, and a/the new-look Big 12 was always the best case for that. Let the Big 10 and SEC live in their ivory tower and the rest of us can keep enjoying a competitive playing field.
4 - And to those that think Land Grant means anything in athletic affiliation… it means as much as AAU status – absolutely nothing.
I agreee. Once you get above 20 (or even 18) what's the point in football? You split into 10 team divisions and you'd only see the other teams during championship week? That's essentially just 2 conferences with the same media dealMight as well slice that 11/11 from El Paso to Fargo to have a Pac-11 and a Big 11.
Which is what it would realistic be save for maybe a combined media contract and CCG.
Better team drive!Imagine the equipment truck drivers going from Piscataway to Los Angeles lol
TCU actually makes a ton of sense when you think about it. Money forever and a foothold in Texas without the Baylor Baggage.Saw someone mention that a source is saying this is the tip of the iceberg for Big Ten expansion and mentioned to look out for Stanford, Oregon, Kansas and TCU
I’m curious why everyone is automatically ok with CU - they left the big xii.
My vote is ASU, UofA, Stanford and Cal. (Assuming UW and Oregon go BIG).
Oh for sure.TCU actually makes a ton of sense when you think about it. Money forever and a foothold in Texas without the Baylor Baggage.
I fully understand that perspective.
As a fan of ISU forever (I just turned 40), I can say without hesitation that I'd rather be competitive with peers than be a sucker that gets stuck at the bottom of the super league. We saw ISU as the sucker of the Big 12 for too long and it would be the same in a super league. I'd rather go against Kansas, K-State, Texas Tech, etc and have something to look forward to on game day. Not sure, that may be an abnormal view/preference.
Would it really be all that shocking if we found out *that* was the point?I agreee. Once you get above 20 (or even 18) what's the point in football? You split into 10 team divisions and you'd only see the other teams during championship week? That's essentially just 2 conferences with the same media deal
SC won't be. They hired the right guy. There are some classics with Ohio State coming.USC and UCLA are big names, but their football teams are not what they were. They may be a lot like Nebraska in the BIG.
That puts their combined value at 410 million. If the pac was going to be let’s say 40MM. That is a total of 480. So the other 10 teams are only worth 70 MM per year combined? Seems to be a little off.First time I’ve seen that 100mil number and actually understand why. It was around 85 before these adds, that is an insane value add if it comes to fruition
The Buffs are traitors, but probably the least traitor-y of the ones that left. They fled to save their own skin when it looked like the league was completely dead. They were not leading the charge. I don't like it, but I have the least problem with them of all the former B12 schools.While the buff's are traitors, I live 20 minutes from Folsom Field, so I'm ok with us taking CU back.
That's the other thing that's nauseating about this. All the media members who hated on the Big12 for expanding are lauding the BiG for the same things.Its cool when the B1G does it but when the Big12 does it, "3 time zones that's unwieldy".
USC is probably set to rebound under Riley, and UCLA is probably more about basketball (gives the Big Ten the top LA program from September til April).USC and UCLA are big names, but their football teams are not what they were. They may be a lot like Nebraska in the BIG.