Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[cyIclSoneU]

USC and UCLA are leaving. The reported offers of PAC 12 media rights were that they were terrible when USC and UCLA were included. Speculation is the offers will be significantly lower. Big 12 estimates are reportedly to be significantly higher. Logic and common sense means Big 12 teams will not leave a better deal to go with a poor PAC 12 deal with the 2 most valuable schools looking to leave. PAC 12 journalists are desperately throwing out silly possibilities.

Could be right. Also sounds a lot like the media dumping dirt on the Big 12 a year ago. Replace USC and UCLA with Texas and Oklahoma and you’re pretty close.

Nobody knows. We are just waiting to see what ESPN will offer the Pac. The suits in Connecticut will decide which conference eats the other or if they both get to live.

 

[JP4CY]

Can’t wait to welcome the lucky ones that are still “P5 journalists” to Ames in November in the near future.

I'm trying to remember the ESPN mailbag college beat writer, probably hasn't worked there in eons, who refused to come to Ames.

 

[Stormin]

Could be right. Also sounds a lot like the media dumping dirt on the Big 12 a year ago. Replace USC and UCLA with Texas and Oklahoma and you’re pretty close.

Nobody knows. We are just waiting to see what ESPN will offer the Pac. The suits in Connecticut will decide which conference eats the other or if they both get to live.

The reported estimates of the New Big 12 are higher than the Old
PAC 12 when they had USC-UCLA. PAC 12 journalists. Mountain West journalists. Soon interchangeable.

 

[BCClone]

Does anyone know if UCLA has to forego some media dollars for a few years? Everybody else joining has, so unless they are an exception, they are still going to be struggling for a few years.

They raise the big ten pay, I’d say they should get full money when they show.

 

[BCClone]

I'm trying to remember the ESPN mailbag college beat writer, probably hasn't worked there in eons, who refused to come to Ames.

David Uben or something like that.

 

[RustShack]

Could be right. Also sounds a lot like the media dumping dirt on the Big 12 a year ago. Replace USC and UCLA with Texas and Oklahoma and you’re pretty close.

Nobody knows. We are just waiting to see what ESPN will offer the Pac. The suits in Connecticut will decide which conference eats the other or if they both get to live.

Then the Big12 added BYU, Cincinnati, Houston, and UCF. I don’t think standing pat or adding SDSU and Boise will save them. Especially with it being known Oregon and Washington want to leave.

 

[JP4CY]

David Uben or something like that.

Bingo!

 

[ScottyP]

Bingo!

He was a Big 12 reporter who had never been to Ames and refused to do so.

 

[drmwevr08]

Here is where we need Trump talking about lying ass media. These Pac shills acting like that league could be ok. LIARS!

 

[theshadow]

He was a Big 12 reporter who had never been to Ames and refused to do so.

Not only that, he never covered an ISU game in person home or away in those 3 years. Tried to blame it all on his editors.

But, somehow saw WVU 3 times and took in 2 TCU games in Fort Worth in their first season in the league.

 

[WhoISthis]

A lot of what this guy says is pretty well thought out conjecture. However, are we supposed to believe that the same Cal and Stanford that rejected BYU a couple of years ago are now going to accept BYU AND Baylor? Maybe they'll take Grand Canyon State too. I guess they are probably more desperate now but it is more likely that this guy didn't think this one through very well.

They are desperate.

But I think the contradiction is that Cal and Stanford wouldn’t leave to make more money in the Big 12 as a Big 18 or Big 20, because it’s beneath them, yet their top potential additions are Cal St schools, Boise, BYU, Baylor, Houston etc

 

[WhoISthis]

Could be right. Also sounds a lot like the media dumping dirt on the Big 12 a year ago. Replace USC and UCLA with Texas and Oklahoma and you’re pretty close.

Nobody knows. We are just waiting to see what ESPN will offer the Pac. The suits in Connecticut will decide which conference eats the other or if they both get to live.

Fox may have something to say.

If FOX wants to, they could fund a Big 18 and put a big wrench in espn’s plans

 

[LLCoolCY]

The Athletic has an article on the options for the Arizona schools.

What are Arizona and Arizona State's best realignment options?

The Arizona schools are in a difficult spot: Stay loyal to the conference brand or seek a more stable home?

theathletic.com

I won't share behind the pay wall but they did post a twitter poll for what the fans thought would be the result after hearing the arguments.

 

[CascadeClone]

Then the Big12 added BYU, Cincinnati, Houston, and UCF. I don’t think standing pat or adding SDSU and Boise will save them. Especially with it being known Oregon and Washington want to leave.

That's the real problem for the PAC12. Money is less, but maybe you can live on it. But knowing your last 2 big dogs are gone as soon as they can go... PAC12 is dead man walking.

 

[kcbob79clone]

If we want the best teams in the playoff, it really should probably be 3 SEC teams and then one open spot for the best of the rest.

According to Finebaum it should be all 4 SEC teams

 

[CyJack13]

According to Finebaum it should be all 4 SEC teams

There’s been years where it probably should be.

 

[WhoISthis]

That's the real problem for the PAC12. Money is less, but maybe you can live on it. But knowing your last 2 big dogs are gone as soon as they can go... PAC12 is dead man walking.

Imagine knowing OU and UT applied to SEC but are on hold, yet deciding to still sticking with the Big 12 and seeing what happens

And it is not just the BIG risk. What if espn offers to put them in ACC or something more crazy like a 4 or 5 team confederation of independents that keeps ND happy and ESPN can schedule against ACC, SEC, maybe B12 without any conference schedule constraints. Will all of the mountain 4 be included in those alternatives to joining Big 12?

Or once Oregon, Stanford, or UW leave, the 4 mountain schools have less leverage.

This is the one opportunity thus far in which they dictate their future and lock in a path to the 3rd super conference. Maybe there’s a small chance they get a better outcome waiting, but more likely worse

 

[cyIclSoneU]

There’s been years where it probably should be.

When?

 

[CascadeClone]

This is the one opportunity thus far in which they dictate their future and lock in a path to the 3rd super conference. Maybe there’s a small chance they get a better outcome waiting, but more likely worse

Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

That's the thing, logically, there really isn't anything better than Big12 or hope the status quo doesn't degrade much. But they are still going thru the "this can't be happening" stage.

 

[isucy86]

There’s been years where it probably should be.

I can't recall a year where the SEC should have gotten a 3rd team in the playoff. And they never should as long as they play 8 conference games.