REALISTIC expectations for 2023 football season

[CycloneErik]

Keep moving those goal posts. You said turnarounds after bad years rarely, if ever, happen for programs. They do. You've been given multiple examples of similar programs to Iowa State doing it.

P.S. Campbell and Fitz have the same winning percentage at their current schools.

Didn't move at all. I talked very specifically about levels of success.
All but Brohm have had much more successful seasons than Campbell. Remove the blinders and it's all right there.

And yet again, maybe Campbell gets it done. He has the opportunity.

 

[ajspatio19]

What is your realistic expectation?

• Sept. 2 – UNI - W
• Sept. 9 – Iowa - L
• Sept. 16 – at Ohio - W
• Sept. 23 – Oklahoma State - W
• Sept. 30 – at Oklahoma - L
• Oct. 7 – TCU (Jack Trice Legacy Game) - W
• Oct. 14 – at Cincinnati - W
• Oct. 28 – at Baylor - L
• Nov. 4 – Kansas (Homecoming) - W
• Nov. 11 – at BYU - W
• Nov. 18 – Texas - L
• Nov. 25 – at Kansas State - L

7-5 (5-4 Conference)

 

[Statefan10]

What is your realistic expectation?

• Sept. 2 – UNI - W
• Sept. 9 – Iowa - L
• Sept. 16 – at Ohio - W
• Sept. 23 – Oklahoma State - W
• Sept. 30 – at Oklahoma - L
• Oct. 7 – TCU (Jack Trice Legacy Game) - W
• Oct. 14 – at Cincinnati - W
• Oct. 28 – at Baylor - L
• Nov. 4 – Kansas (Homecoming) - W
• Nov. 11 – at BYU - W
• Nov. 18 – Texas - L
• Nov. 25 – at Kansas State - L

7-5 (5-4 Conference)

UNI - W
Iowa - W
@ Ohio - W
Oklahoma State - L
@ OU - L
TCU - W
@ Cincy - W
@ Baylor - L
KU - W
@ BYU - L
Texas - W
@ KSU - L

7-5 (4-6 Conference)

 

[nrg4isu]

UNI - W
Iowa - W
@ Ohio - W
Oklahoma State - L
@ OU - L
TCU - W
@ Cincy - W
@ Baylor - L
KU - W
@ BYU - L
Texas - W
@ KSU - L

7-5 (4-6 Conference)

UNI - W
Iowa - L
@ Ohio - W
Oklahoma State - W
@ OU - L
TCU - L
@ Cincy - W
@ Baylor - L
KU - W
@ BYU - W
Texas - L
@ KSU - L

6-6 (4-5 Conference)

This is "realistic expectations" as far as I'm concerned. I really want to put Iowa and Texas as W's, but at this point I can't.

 

[Statefan10]

UNI - W
Iowa - L
@ Ohio - W
Oklahoma State - W
@ OU - L
TCU - L
@ Cincy - W
@ Baylor - L
KU - W
@ BYU - W
Texas - L
@ KSU - L

6-6 (4-5 Conference)

This is "realistic expectations" as far as I'm concerned. I really want to put Iowa and Texas as W's, but at this point I can't.

Yeah I feel ya. I think the reason why I like us beating Texas is I think we'll be playing our best football at that point and I don't think they're going to be as good as everyone thinks they will be.

 

[CyPack]

UNI - W
Iowa - W
@ Ohio - W
Oklahoma State - W
@ OU - L
TCU - L
@ Cincy - W
@ Baylor - L
KU - W
@ BYU - W
Texas - L
@ KSU - L

7-5 (4-5 Conference)

 

[nrg4isu]

Yeah I feel ya. I think the reason why I like us beating Texas is I think we'll be playing our best football at that point and I don't think they're going to be as good as everyone thinks they will be.

Also, I hope it's 10° with 25mph winds. Because **** Texas

 

[swessball]

Didn't move at all. I talked very specifically about levels of success.
All but Brohm have had much more successful seasons than Campbell. Remove the blinders and it's all right there.

And yet again, maybe Campbell gets it done. He has the opportunity.

Stay on target. Your point about turnarounds not being likely and almost never happening for coaching staffs is the point of discussion here. There are multiple examples of that statement being incorrect regardless of how many caveats you want to throw out there.

 

[CycloneErik]

Stay on target. Your point about turnarounds not being likely and almost never happening for coaching staffs is the point of discussion here. There are multiple examples of that statement being incorrect regardless of how many caveats you want to throw out there.

Well, there aren't any, but have a nice day.

 

[swessball]

Well, there aren't any, but have a nice day.

Well, there aren't any, but have a nice day.

 

[Statefan10]

Also, I hope it's 10° with 25mph winds. Because **** Texas

I want Texas Tech weather from last year. They won't want to be there.

 

[brokenloginagain]

If we win 4 games, with some nuggets of optimism, I'll be satisfied.

Unscientific summary of this poll feels like CF consensus is more around 6.5+ wins. That's going to be tough.

Hope I'm wrong!

 

[werdnamanhill]

Well, there aren't any, but have a nice day.

I just want to be clear. You are saying there's no examples of a coaching regime having a down year, and then being better afterwards?

 

[Cyinthenorth]

What is your realistic expectation?

• Sept. 2 – UNI - W
• Sept. 9 – Iowa - L
• Sept. 16 – at Ohio - W
• Sept. 23 – Oklahoma State - W
• Sept. 30 – at Oklahoma - L
• Oct. 7 – TCU (Jack Trice Legacy Game) - W
• Oct. 14 – at Cincinnati - W
• Oct. 28 – at Baylor - L
• Nov. 4 – Kansas (Homecoming) - W
• Nov. 11 – at BYU - W
• Nov. 18 – Texas - L
• Nov. 25 – at Kansas State - L

7-5 (5-4 Conference)

Impossible to do this exercise given the current state of the program, but here goes:

UNI - L
Iowa - W (gonna be one of those years)
@ Ohio W
Oklahoma State W
@ Oklahoma L
Tcu L
@ Cincy L
@ Baylor L
Kansas W
@ BYU L
Texas W (Paul Rhoads upset special)
@ K St L

Sounds about right, 5-7 (3-6) UNI game and suspensions loom large.

 

[Hammerschlagen]

There was also never an Iowa State coach to win a NY6 bowl, go 8-1 in conf (basically Big 12 champs), finish ranked in the top 10, but Campbell did all that. So I guess if we need a guy to do the impossible we have him already

 

[werdnamanhill]

We aren't losing to UNI. Gimme a break.

 

[werdnamanhill]

Wins:
UNI
Ohio
Kansas

Losses:
Texas
Baylor

Toss-up:
OSU
OU
BYU
Cincy
K State
Iowa
TCU

Okay. Take the wins, add 1/2 the toss ups and you're at 6-7 wins. Realistically, floor of 4, ceiling of 7.

 

[Frak]

Stay on target. Your point about turnarounds not being likely and almost never happening for coaching staffs is the point of discussion here. There are multiple examples of that statement being incorrect regardless of how many caveats you want to throw out there.

I'd say that turnarounds after one bad year happen quite often. Turnarounds after two bad years in a row not so much. They need to get to 5-7 minimum and show signs of improvement or things might snowball on them.

 

[Jer]

Wins:
UNI
Ohio
Kansas

Losses:
Texas
Baylor

Toss-up:
OSU
OU
BYU
Cincy
K State
Iowa
TCU

Okay. Take the wins, add 1/2 the toss ups and you're at 6-7 wins. Realistically, floor of 4, ceiling of 7.

I could see this. I probably feel least comfortable with Iowa, TCU, and K-State in the Toss-up section.

I think Iowa special teams and defense will be as strong as ever and McNamara doesn't get enough credit (21-7 TD/INT if I remember correctly). If they get any improvement in their OL and WR ranks, they could be a big problem.

TCU is always pretty good but I haven't had the mental energy or time to really look at what they lost.

K-State will be tough as always and has a better QB for the whole year than they had in Martinez.

Okie State is down but man I can't imagine they're that far down to not be competitive.

Oklahoma has restocked a bit. Not sure the coaching is right, especially for the roster, so that keeps it from Losses to Toss-up but could move after the first week or two seeing how together they are.

 

[Statefan10]

Impossible to do this exercise given the current state of the program, but here goes:

UNI - L
Iowa - W (gonna be one of those years)
@ Ohio W
Oklahoma State W
@ Oklahoma L
Tcu L
@ Cincy L
@ Baylor L
Kansas W
@ BYU L
Texas W (Paul Rhoads upset special)
@ K St L

Sounds about right, 5-7 (3-6) UNI game and suspensions loom large.

UNI is gonna struggle mightily to move the ball on our defense and their defense is horrible. I’m not saying it can’t/won’t happen but with UNI losing its defensive coordinator a few years ago along with not having their OL coach, I don’t see them playing the style of game that’s helped them succeed against ISU in the past.