No doubt Iowa's OL is exponentially better than ours. But what does the guy have to do to get Iowa State fans to admit that he's having a great year? The offensive line isn't why it takes 3 defenders to tackle that guy.
Shonn Greene
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No doubt Iowa's OL is exponentially better than ours. But what does the guy have to do to get Iowa State fans to admit that he's having a great year? The offensive line isn't why it takes 3 defenders to tackle that guy.
I disagree to a point.
You don't see 3 LBs or DLs tackling Greene, you see 3 DBs. And he's getting to that level because his line is taking the front defense out of the equation very often.
He's a fine back. There's no denying it. He must be gang tackled every play.
But I think the point most are making, you put him on ISU's squad with our current line play - his stats are closer to maybe 400-500 yards. His success is very much a product of superior line play (and inferior opponents. Next two weeks will really show what he's made of)
JMO.
It's easy to argue that if you give him our OL that he wouldn't be having a good year because there's no way to either confirm or dispute it.
I think we can all agree that we'd have a better running game than we do if we had him.
And I watched our linebackers miss tackles on him in Iowa City. It's hard to predict where he'll be drafted because we don't know who else will be leaving early or what kind of combine numbers he's going to put up, but I was impressed with how fast he looked against Wisconsin.
I assume that opponents' fear of Stanzi is also helping Greene from getting the box stacked against him? You know, kinda like how teams stack the box to stop ISU's running game.
And ISU's Oline is terrible so that surely makes Greene look better in comparison. But ISU backs have done very little this year to prove they're more than Greene's backup.
Oh - I think I can say with much certainty that if he played behind our line, he wouldn't have the same numbers. :wink:
Just as if we put ARob or Bass behind iowa's line, I think we can reasonably expect their numbers to jump.
It goes without saying that he would be a plus to our running game. But really for the same reasons. He's difficult to take down alone. Our backs aren't. Far too often our backs go down nearly on their own. Chizik even said as much prior to the Baylor game.
I'm just saying that like most iowa offensive skill players (Betts, Banks, etc) Greene's success is LARGELY due to the line iowa puts up there.
I have no idea on his pro prospects. Again, the next two weeks will tell the story. He's played nobody to this point.
(yes - I'm semi-ignoring the notion that he shed our tacklers. EVERYBODY sheds out tacklers)
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I think he is having a great year and I think he is a heck of a RB at this point in the season. My comments were more directed at the troll who was bring up summer threads where we were talking about 4 of our backs starting for eiu over anybody there. I think there is a 90% chance that Greene is better then all our backs, just would like to see how our RB's would do behind their line.
Not quite sure I agree with the fearing Stanzi part unless you refer to fear of the unknown, but other then that I have to say your post is pretty spot on.
What about them? None of those teams could stop him either. He ran out of gas against Pitt, he completely outplayed Ringer in East Lansing, and N'Western had to knock him out - literally - to get him off the field. Against Pitt and N'western, he only played 3 quarters. He's been the best player on the field in every game to this point. I would agree with the notion that the hard part starts next weekend, but against Illinois 72nd ranked rush defense and Iowa's o-line, he's got a good shot.
Hit the link and see for yourself, those 3 teams did NOTHING against him.
NCAA DIVISION I FOOTBALL
Since you are posting a picture your favorite 2008 football memory let me post mine-:wink:I just thought I'd post this picture....
That's Greene. That's 90% of ISU's defense.
Greene would probably be injured for the year if he was playing real ball in the Big 12. That guy is slow. Isn't it typical that we basically shut the guy down IN Iowa City! They tried slowing our defense down with the flooded field trick, but we all know what really happened! STATE!
Do you honestly believe everything you just typed? Greene had over 100 yards against us. Can't really say we shut him down.
I just thought I'd post this picture....
That's Greene. That's 90% of ISU's defense.
Dude, why don't you pack your **** up and move to Iowa City. Your garbage here is getting very old.
I just thought I'd post this picture....
That's Greene. That's 90% of ISU's defense.
This is the school you attend
This is the team students of that school are to support
Just thought I'd post this.
http://www.cyclones.com/AdMonitor.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10700&MONITOR_AD_ID=62362
Dude, calm down, it was a joke. If you don't like my posts, just put me on ignore. I promise, it won't hurt my feelings.
Why do you even post here? Go to Hawkeyenation or HawkeyeReport. It's bad enough that you are a traitor to your own school, at least don't flaunt it.
Sheesh, I'd hate to see what your reaction would be if I were to post a picture of Andy Brodell...
