I also think this year's strategy of "bring in a few Senior-year breakouts" makes a ton of sense.
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As I look at the ratings I see that teams we should be competitive with got their share of 4 and 5 star recruits: Texas Tech - one 5 and four 4's, TCU - four 4's, UCF - eight 4's, Iowa - three 4's, Kansas - three 4's, West Virginia - one 4, and Cincinnati - one 4. Iowa State had zero 4's and 5's. Texas's and Oklahoma's moves to the SEC really helped them. Texas had four 5's and fourteen 4's. OU had one 5 and eighteen 4's.
I'm afraid recruits who know they have 4+ stars next to their name are now going to be expecting money up front. We're not currently in a position to play that game, but personally that doesn't bother me much. Outside of Lazard & Breece, most of our 4 star recruits haven't delivered.
guarantee if a recruit starts asking about $$ up front, regardless of star rating, its not a guy CMC/staff wants on campus
I will die on the hill of its more important who else wants the guys we want than the star next to his name. That is what concerns me about this class and at this point it’s only a concern as they haven’t even graduated hs yet, but it’s not…great.
I think it may still be a guy they want on campus but I also think they know that's not a game they're going to be competitive in and one thing this staff does very well, IMO, is cut bait quickly on guys who they don't think they'll get. They do not waste time on guys that they don't think will come here.
I agree -though the star rating is (I think) completely based on who offers, so it just depends on what respect they put on your school's offer
And this class was built off a 4-8 season. That should start to trend upwards starting with the ‘25 class.
Correct.
But man...
Abu is a hit
Brahmer is a hit
Brendan Black is a hit
Jack Sadowsky is a hit
Kooper Ebel is a hit
Jamison Patton is a hit
SHOOT Former walkon Drew Surges is a hit.
Likely JJ, Beni, Same and Ta'Shawn James are likely hits.
That's a dang good sign for the class.
Definitely find, develop and fight to keep is the way that Iowa State needs to go.
With how the ISU staff recruits, I trust who they go all out for and who they try to hide (Beau Goodwin, Garret Rutledge)
I do also wish we got more 4 stars, but people gotta realize 4 stars are closer to 3 stars than 5 stars in talent. Just look at Georgia vs Ole Miss.
Quite frankly our 4 stars don't pan out that often.
Quite frankly our 4 stars don't pan out that often.
To a certain extent. A player who receives a lot of attention will have a more accurate rating than a player who only a couple "scouts" have seen.
I love me some ISU TE's, but to claim we're TE U over Iowa is ridiculous.
The fact is ISU is never going to be able to recruit to the level of some of those teams you listed because Iowa just does not produce a lot of four and five star talent, and the ones that are tend to either go to EIU or out of state. I have said before ISU needs to do better recruiting here in Iowa, when you are a small rural state you need to take most of the talent each year from the state, go back and look at the top 10 football players from Iowa over the past 5 to 10 years, we are just not getting enough of them. EIU is kicking our butt with instate recruiting has been doing so for quite some time overall.
Stars don't mean a whole lot for a single recruit but it definitely matters with your overall roster makeup. It's really not a coincidence that the best 10 - 15 teams on a year in year out basis have a bunch of 4 and 5 stars on their roster.
