It's a long ways to there but really this yrs team can play with anyone and NEVER gives up. It's our best chance since the Niang broken foot yr.
So how good is the Big 12 in Basketball this year?
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Yep, this is why I hate ncsos comparisons.
Teams whose scrubs are in the 150+ range will look a lot better to the computers than teams in the 250+ range, while not being any more competitive against top teams.
Almost every P5 team plays maybe 3-5 real games in the noncon and a bunch of scrubs. And much of that SoS is out of teams control. You can schedule P5 opponents that were good and they end up sucking. You can sign up for a neutral site tournament and end up drawing worse teams if theres an upset or you lose early and get shunted into games against other teams that lost. Or in our case we can have a conference challenge but we get assigned a complete dumpster fire of a team by our conference. We shouldn't be putting so much weight on a part of the season that consists of just a few 'real' games for most schools
My stupid prediction. Iowa State and Houston will play each other 4 times this year. Big 12 tournament and again in the final 4. Like I said, my stupid prediction
MWC has possibilities beyond SD State - Utah State and New Mexico, perhaps. I don't really trust most of those teams to go deep, but it'd be the closest to an FAU comparison.
FAU '24 also is sort of like FAU '23. (But higher expectation, so maybe it doesn't count).
I feel like most of the mid-major-ish action might come 11/12/13 line with some teams that have dominated their conferences during regular season. Maybe it's only 1st round upset but some I could see going second weekend. More on those at some point later.
A week into conference play we had 8 teams ranked and now we have 4. This happens most years.
If we had big ten level of media slobbering that 8 probably would’ve grown to 9-10. Thankfully computer rankings are more commonly used in basketball. The AP tends to rank our top 3/4 at least as high as computers, but for a decade plus now they have ranked our 5th-8th place teams way lower than computer metrics do.
BYU’s season is a mirror of our season two years ago when we went undefeated non conf and then battled to stay near .500 in conference. They aren’t ranked now, they’d easily be ranked in any other conference and probably be contending for lead.
Yeah but by complaining about the net and claiming it is flawed, they will use this narrative to act like their quad 3-4 games should be rated higher too.
CycloneErik
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It's a legitimate possibility, and not just one of those "well, if this, this, this, this, this. this, this, this, and this all happen, then maybe" sorts of possibilities.
Long time ago KU and OU met in the Final can't even remember who won but I picked it right on my bracket. I think it was the last time I ever did good at picking the bracket.
1988. KU won, as a 6 seed - OU was 1 seed. "Danny and The Miracles."
1988. Big 8 ruled that year. Danny Manning and KU upset top ranked OU and Wayman Tisdale.
Resume metrics and predictive metrics tell different stories. The Barttorvik team sheets linked below have all of the metrics that the selection committee uses.
NCAA Teamsheet Ranks - Customizable College Basketball Tempo Free Stats - T-Rank
T-Rank College Basketball Ratings and Rankings. And fun.
barttorvik.com
Kansas is 7 and 4 on KPI and SOR, the resume metrics, while Iowa State is 15 and 8, respectively. On BPI and Kenpom, the predictive (or "quality") metrics, Iowa State is 8 and 11, while Kansas is 15 on both.
That was a strong year for Big 8, at least near the top. K-State (MW4) also was in Elite 8 (lost to KU).
Missouri lost 6v11 vs. Rhode Island. ISU was a 12 seed and lost 1st round.
I worry about officials who don't usually work Big12 games suddenly are officiating Big 12 teams in the NCAA tournament. How will they call it?
Well if History is a lesson, we know they won't call it much different than Big 12. Otherwise Baylor would not have won the title, Texas Tech would not have played for the title, and Kansas, Whose defense was not quite as intense that year, would not have won the title.
I wanted to give this a like, good post. But I couldn't. Too close to the current NIL, which I NO like. Like anyway, check.
CycloneErik
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