The Big 12 AD meeting Thursday night
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How long until after Texas joins the SEC that it realizes this sucks and they call up Oklahoma, Texas A&M, and the other Texas/Oklahoma schools and Arkansas and try to get the SWC back together? They're never going to be happy when they meet the SEC West all the sudden.
The NFL only had 28 teams in 1985, playing 16 game regular season, and no one had any problem with that.
Tons of casual sports fans will watch whatever ESPN has on or pumps up. Gamblers will be all in too, and they are more important to this than most people realize.
No the PAC 12 owns their own network which is part of the reason they never got carriage across the country. FOX has 1/2 of the PAC 12 T1/T2 deals. Which actually gives FOX more incentive to shuffle 4-6 best brands of the PAC to the B1G.
It was football TV viewership.
Big 12 wasn't even a thing until the SWC imploded and Tech, ATM, Baylor, and UT joined the Big 8 essentially.
Before I start, let me say that I think ISU is the best cultural, geographic, and athletics fit available for the Big Ten at this time and personally given the alternatives joining up with them would be ideal for ISU.
That said, if I'm the Big Ten, it is going to be necessary to sit back and see if what the SEC is trying to do works or not, and what the ramifications for the Big 10 would be. It could be a juggernaut in a couple years that has your own big dogs looking at greener pastures. Or perhaps the Big 10 does alright but it scares schools like USC and UCLA into looking for a home in a big pay for play league.
My gut says they are going to stand pat for now unless a really big fish (read none of the Big 12 leftovers) suddenly becomes available. And you will want a spot available when that day comes.
That said, if I'm the Big Ten, it is going to be necessary to sit back and see if what the SEC is trying to do works or not, and what the ramifications for the Big 10 would be. It could be a juggernaut in a couple years that has your own big dogs looking at greener pastures. Or perhaps the Big 10 does alright but it scares schools like USC and UCLA into looking for a home in a big pay for play league.
My gut says they are going to stand pat for now unless a really big fish (read none of the Big 12 leftovers) suddenly becomes available. And you will want a spot available when that day comes.
You're correct. They shifted the non conference directional school matchups. I doubt league games get there but who knows if ESPN plus thinks they can get SEC state subscribers to pay for ESPN plus and SECN.
SEC games will air on ESPN+ for the first time ever in 2021
Interesting move here by ESPN.
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If ESPN is behind all of this and it sounds like they are, then wouldn't it be in their interests to try to get KU into the ACC, a league that they also own broadcasting rights too? The Big 10 and BTN is owned by FOX sports, and one would think that KU would love the idea of playing Duke, NC and the rest of that league in BB.
I said same yesterday in one of the other 1000 post threads. If I was running the B1G this is what I would do to prevent OSU, Mich, PSU from leaving for the ESPN, I mean SEC.
It still doesn't change the fact that conferences have been making power grabs all the way back to Big XII getting Texas, B1G getting Penn St, and even before that. This was the inevitable conclusion to all of it, regardless of whether or not players got paid.
Rutgers and Maryland brought in $50 million apiece under the old system because it allowed BTN to move into NY city and the Wash/Baltimore regions.
But today because of cord cutting and people moving to streaming, cable companies are cutting back and moving BTN to a sports package that costs extra. The idea behind BTN was just a genius idea, you are getting to charge people for content on basic cable or satellite whether they watch or even care about the programing or not.
You're correct. They shifted the non conference directional school matchups. I doubt league games get there but who knows if ESPN plus thinks they can get SEC state subscribers to pay for ESPN plus and SECN.
SEC games will air on ESPN+ for the first time ever in 2021
Interesting move here by ESPN.
That's very obviously the goal - to double dip. Get the cable subscriptions and then have the same people spend another 8 bucks a month or whatever it is in a couple years.
The way that a super league/conference could take total control into its own prestigious division is pretty astounding.
Right now, I can generally talk college football with other teams' fans and it's a pretty good conversation around teams at least in the same category (FBS).
If some separate/higher up new division really takes hold, ISU gets left out and really will be in that 'little brother' picture.
How does taking on all the dead weight that the SEC doesn't need prevent OSU-PSU-Mich from leaving? Seems to me it makes it more likely.
Do you notice every streaming service(or at least the vast majority) still includes BTN, SEC & ACC in the packages. Those leagues are still monetizing the old system whether its satellite, cable or streaming. It appears the BTN & SEC will be popular enough to continue that. I don't know about the ACC long term although they got ESPN behind them.
Drop Tech, add KU. KU needs a partner if they're headed to the Big10. That's either us or Mizzou in all likelihood. If it's Mizzou, you're probably taking OSU off the board for the PAC. But I really see the Big10 staying at 14 and only the PAC expands to try and regain ground that they've lost. So if that's the case, add ISU. KU, KSU, and OSU to the PAC and make an Eastern division.
