It's amazing that he can get a massive payday and then a freshman comes in for us that was a much lower rated recruit, and just ends up being a better overall player than Hunter. Frankly, I'm glad Hunter is gone because Lipsey is the clearly the better player.
I'm not 100% sure Lipsey was. Both players had excellent freshman years. Lipsey was better after that because he and the staff broke down his weakness ( shooting) and the rest is history. Who's to say hunter couldn't of done the same with the right guidance?
I think Lipsey’s passing ability as a freshman makes up the difference between Hunter scoring more points per game than Lipsey. Hunter is an average, at best, passing guard.
Maybe he just peaked out early?? Unless you can point to some specific examples I don't think its fair to conclude that he has "character" issues.
Yeah I don't think he has character issues. I think he took a fat paycheck to go play for one coach. That coach is a fantastic coach, however, that coach also choked out a women maybe. That coach got fired and he was stuck on a team with a coach that failed at a mid major and now was the head coach. He probably had a two year deal to stay with Texas.
I don’t disagree with what you’re saying, but where do you get that specific amount from? I’m going to guess they were expecting a lot more from him for that kind of $$$.
Yeah definitely this is probably closer to the truth. Plus he is overall not a great shooter. When his shot is on his confidence goes way up(like most players) and he is a game-changer. I think his shooting slumps get in his head maybe a little more than some. This in no way means he has bad character.
Hunter was CFOY, you're sighting what he meant to us. Obviously there's no sweet 16 without him.
The "bad character" angle is mostly a coping mechanism that people employ to help themselves feel better about him leaving Iowa State. I have no idea if the $840k number is correct, but even if it's half that, it was still 4-5 times what Iowa State was able to offer at the time. Seizing the opportunity to get life changing money isn't bad character. He didn't rob a bank or scam a charity. He decided to play basketball for a different school than the one I like. If that's the worst strike against his character, then he's doing just fine, I think.
Hunter was not a great offensive player when he was at ISU. He shot less than 40% overall and less than 30% from 3 pt. He improved his shooting at Texas and became a decent shooter (around 45% overall and 35% from 3pt). We had unrealistic expectation of Hunter. He never was a great offensive player.
That’s completely uncalled for. He just didn’t improve after freshman year if you look at his numbers. Not sure why you’re defending a guy that gave up on ISU and hasn’t gotten any better in the two years since leaving ISU. Usually a lack of improvement has something to do with character and/or unwillingness to put in the effort.
Hard to argue with that, it's a full circle of contradictions so I don't know where I'd start. What I can say is I believe the guy that carried us to the sweet 16 could of improved his range in the offseason from a consistency stand point.
He probably would have. That's why leaving was a terrible decision on his part. Cost him 2 years of development that he'll never get back.
I guess I don't get this ticked off at players leaving, saying they gave up on ISU. Should we have bad opinions of players like BRE, Gilbert, Curtis Jones, Gabe, and point fingers at them and say they gave up on their team? If we are going to embrace the portal, we have to be fine when players leave and not be pissy about it, unless we want to trash talk the ones we get also. Its a two way street, not one way.
