NBA: Untold: Malice at the Palace

[CycloneRulzzz]

Listened to Jermaine O'Neal on Dan Patrick today about a documentary which is available on Netflix about the Malice at the Palace.

It's really good and it really makes a case while players had their share of blame alot of things were also to blame fans, lack of security personnel at the Palace.

A few things I hadn't realized that Indiana and Detroit had met in the Eastern Conf. Finals the season before. In the video of the game that Detroit clinched the ECF the final was 69-65. That's a halftime or 3rd quarter score now.

Our own Jamaal Tinsley was on the Pacers at the time.

I agree with the sentiment in it that if the malice incident doesn't happen Indiana at worst would have gotten another shot at a NBA finals appearance and possibly Reggie may of gotten his ring.

 

[madguy30]

There's a great Bill Burr bit from many years ago talking about this incident, how fans get belligerent toward players yelling 'Come on up here! Come on!'.

'Well, they came up there!'.

 

[JM4CY]

Listened to Jermaine O'Neal on Dan Patrick today about a documentary which is available on Netflix about the Malice at the Palace.

It's really good and it really makes a case while players had their share of blame alot of things were also to blame fans, lack of security personnel at the Palace.

A few things I hadn't realized that Indiana and Detroit had met in the Eastern Conf. Finals the season before. In the video of the game that Detroit clinched the ECF the final was 69-65. That's a halftime or 3rd quarter score now.

Our own Jamaal Tinsley was on the Pacers at the time.

I agree with the sentiment in it that if the malice incident doesn't happen Indiana at worst would have gotten another shot at a NBA finals appearance and possibly Reggie may of gotten his ring.

I always forget Tinsley was involved in that. Rex Chapman’s podcast had Metta World Peace or whatever he’s calling himself now on it a while back and he went in depth about the Malice from his perspective. It was pretty interesting.

 

[CycloneRulzzz]

I always forget Tinsley was involved in that. Rex Chapman’s podcast had Metta World Peace or whatever he’s calling himself now on it a while back and he went in depth about the Malice from his perspective. It was pretty interesting.

In this doc you hear from Jermaine O'Neal, Stephen Jackson, Metta aka Ron, Reggie Miller among others. If you have netflix or a friend whose account you can borrow I highly encourage it.

 

[CloneGuy8]

I don't blame the players. More jackass fans need to be humbled by a professional athlete when they cross the line.

 

[ISUTex]

That was all on Artest. Ok. Some ******* throws a drink on you. That ******* gets escorted from the arena and probably arrested. Meta Peace didn't need to jump in the crowd and start beating up some little guy. Was that even the guy who threw it? Then Jackson flies in and starts punching at whoever is near. Idiots.

Also, the fans who tried to sue J. Oneal are idiots too.

I remember watching this live. Almost forgot about it until this week.

 

[ISUCubswin]

The whole time I watched it, I was blown away with how much our society has changed.

Malice at the Palace, just 15 years ago, was an event where the whole event was blamed on the players. Media made it sounds like players were 100% to blame.

Now you have some jackass throw a water bottle on Westbrook and it’s a 30 minute segment on Sportscenter on fan control. Media has shifted that blame to the fans.

 

[ISUCubswin]

I also want to just say I was so impressed with Jermaine O’Neal. Dude should have his own NBA talk show.

 

[cyclo120]

Really enjoyed this, funny how they snuck in that towards the end of the game in blowout Tinsley told Artest to foul Wallace hard potentially triggering the whole thing.

 

[HFCS]

The whole time I watched it, I was blown away with how much our society has changed.

Malice at the Palace, just 15 years ago, was an event where the whole event was blamed on the players. Media made it sounds like players were 100% to blame.

Now you have some jackass throw a water bottle on Westbrook and it’s a 30 minute segment on Sportscenter on fan control. Media has shifted that blame to the fans.

We had three incidents in three days this playoffs of fans coming into the court, let me know how that isn't the fault of fan behavior.

Who was actually to blame?

 

[Shawker]

That was all on Artest. Ok. Some ******* throws a drink on you. That ******* gets escorted from the arena and probably arrested. Meta Peace didn't need to jump in the crowd and start beating up some little guy. Was that even the guy who threw it? Then Jackson flies in and starts punching at whoever is near. Idiots.

Also, the fans who tried to sue J. Oneal are idiots too.

I remember watching this live. Almost forgot about it until this week.

Ehhhh I'm of the mind that if you play stupid games you win stupid prizes. Throwing your drink on a gigantic professional athlete is stupid.

 

[tim_redd]

It's kinda funny how everyone is calling out Jamaal as instigating the whole thing now on twitter. Also, Tinsley with the dustpan is an all-time classic.

 

[ISUCubswin]

We had three incidents in three days this playoffs of fans coming into the court, let me know how that isn't the fault of fan behavior.

Who was actually to blame?

My comment was saying it’s impressive we’ve made this adjustment, as I blame Malice at the Palace on fan behavior as well. The difference is Malice at the Palace had fingers pointed at the players right away

 

[CapnCy]

I also want to just say I was so impressed with Jermaine O’Neal. Dude should have his own NBA talk show.

Agree...I always liked him as a player and this really showed how he grew after getting in the league and how this incident really derailed his career a bit.

 

[HFCS]

My comment was saying it’s impressive we’ve made this adjustment, as I blame Malice at the Palace on fan behavior as well. The difference is Malice at the Palace had fingers pointed at the players right away

Oh, I totally misread you.

I think the Malice thing was some blame to go around but definitely plenty of fans were drunken aholes. The recent idiocy in the NBA playoffs when they allowed fans back was 99.9% on the fans and I couldn't believe someone was blaming players. The players actually did a great job staying out of it.

The thing that sticks with me from the Malice is that the Phoenix Suns basically had a championship taken away from them due to completely idiotic strict interpretation of rules following that. Their bench had to sit there as Robert Horry attacked their MVP point guard without making a play on the ball...yet It's OK for Tim Duncan in the same series to rush out onto the court when it looked like his teammate got shoved after a basket.

Nobody on the Suns deserved to miss games, Tim Duncan also didn't deserve to miss a game but it was beyond stupid he didn't also have to face the same overly strict ridiculous rules.

 

[CyCrazy]

Great doc, and the jackwagon fans still think they were justified.

 

[CycloneRulzzz]

This doc talking about the two teams prior playoff history could answer the obvious question on why with a minute left starters were still in the ballgame. Still dumb coaching decision to have starters in that late.

Reggie with the key point that fans in the expensive seats had left and lack of security staff allowed the cheap drunks to move down closer.

 

[CapnCy]

This doc talking about the two teams prior playoff history could answer the obvious question on why with a minute left starters were still in the ballgame. Still dumb coaching decision to have starters in that late.

Reggie with the key point that fans in the expensive seats had left and lack of security staff allowed the cheap drunks to move down closer.

Also subtle credit to Tinsley starting it all for telling Artest to foul Wallace

 

[madguy30]

Ehhhh I'm of the mind that if you play stupid games you win stupid prizes. Throwing your drink on a gigantic professional athlete is stupid.

I think some people just think fans are entitled to treat the players a certain way.

When you choose to make it physical, all bets are off. That's not to say the players were right, but these fans literally asked for it.

 

[IASTATE07]

I still think Jermaine O'Neal might have killed that guy had he not slipped when planting his foot.