I think we should shut the hell up about this.
Women's March Madness: Cyclones vs Texas A&M 6 p.m. ESPN2
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Didn't watch the game last night but one of our clients is an Iowa fan and even he said he felt like that was the worst jobbing he's ever seen by an officiating crew.
If it was one or two calls that would be one thing but it was like 6-7 game changing errors in the final 2 minutes of regulation and overtime well.....
If your player had split the defenders for an open layup, only to be hip checked and grabbed, causing her to fall down (with 3 seconds left in a tie game), and nothing was called, what would you think about that?
He said he thought the no foul call was worse before that possession. He didn't watch overtime because he felt it was a foregone conclusion after the last two minutes.
Kinda parallels the 2012-13 men's team. Good enough to make the tournament, some big wins along the way, but lose several tight ones down the stretch, similar ending in Round of 32 game exacerbated by bogus officiating at the end.
Watching replay now ... some of ending was a blur the first time. Just got to the shot-clock violation at 1:15. Couldn't we have called timeout or something? (I realize this all has been discussed already).
Oh I agree with some things of what you are saying. I watched every single women's game this year and had problems with the occasional mistakes, wrap around passes that go nowhere, dribbling INTO double teams (Ashley comes out of them with an amazing regularity), not being stronger with the ball and basically putting it in front of the D to simply grab and tie them up, not getting shots off and and not being unaware of 3,2, or 1 seconds on the shot clock and what you CAN/SHOULD do in that situation.
However, there were people complaining about making Ashley go down low and do her thing too much toward the end of the game. BUT, it worked when it counted and the fault for not catching the other team stopping her in a way that is completely against the rulebook is completely on the officials. That's all I was saying.
I realize that our team had 24 turnovers and made other mistakes during the game. They also did other things that kept them ahead of a #2 seed for ALMOST ALL OF THAT GAME despite those mistakes. Does TA&M deserve to lose the game because they sucked from the 3 point line? No, they made up for it in other areas, just like we did.
It comes down to the fact that we did not play well enough to overcome BOTH the other team and a set of officials who did not do their best work either. I'm sure it was not intentional on their part, but there were several blown calls throughout that game that certainly affected the outcome. Maybe they were worse for TA&M than us, but I really did not see it that way.
I think it's probably most easily described as us being a team that needs to be playing in transition and within the flow of the game to be successful. I don't think there's any doubt that forcing the ball to Ashley is the best strategy for this team. She's a great player and she's surrounded primarily be freshmen, so who else do you want to have the ball? But to me the issue becomes the tug-and-pull of the situation calling for running clock when that is not our game.
Not concerned with Iowa fans. No, I mean ESPN (national television) kept showing him throwing his hissy fits and you could hear him as well. The guy needs counseling.
The season ended in such heartbreaking fashion, but hey we got to move on and look on the bright side. I'm glad the coaching staff will get well-deserved days off and get to spend some quality time with their families, and I hope the players will soon. This video says it all.
Glad for his girls ESPN stopped showing him act like that they don't deserve that regardless of the atrocious officiating. The discussion on Brian Joens is also in the game thread on a more national WBB forum, The Boneyard.
https://www.the-boneyard.com/threads/7-iowa-st-vs-2-texas-a-m-3-24-21.170328/
I said a couple of times last night that ESPN needs to stop showing him. But what else could they do? They didn't do homework on anyone other than Ashley and had nothing else.
They could have showed the replays of the fouls like they did when it was on the other end.
Yep, that was another thing I mentioned - show replays of us, not just A&M. And on the few they did, the announcers were zeroed in on what they saw as fouls/travels on us and not the actual infractions being reviewed ad nauseum for the other team.
However my observation from the other side is this.. Even with all the turnovers, many sortof or directly unforced, ISU was in a position to win. You could say that A&M shot themselves in the foot with poor shooting and rebounding. I do think it does still come down to some questionable calls (or rather no-calls) toward the end. So the point on the turnovers is somewhat valid, but other factors are at play as well..
Our WBB team has represented our school so well in the tournament and they have never complained about the NCAAW tournament's subpar treatment of female athletes, always shown appreciation for the service provided by the host site and the opportunity of playing in the tournament. I give you three exhibits.
1) You can read CBF's comment about "Weight Room Gate" in this post.
2) Ashley Joens even tweeted about how good the food is while players from other schools complain about it.
3) CBF is postgame interview is a pure class without any complaints about the officiating. You can watch the entire press conference (including Ashley's) on Cyclones.tv
https://cyclones.com/watch/?Archive=17994&category=5&type=Archive
However, I find it incredibly ironic and unbelievable that with all the positivity and appreciation ISU has shown to the NCAAW, they still jabbed us with this kind of BS officiating. Trust me NCAAW has a lot of casual fans last night. If NCAAW wants to advocate women's sports equality and grow women's sports, make sure you do the right things within women's sports first.
When a good program like ISU has done enough good things in the sport it participates in, it got to be rewarded the way it deserves. We deserve to be in the Sweet Sixteen this year. We don't want to wait for another year and who knows what will happen next time?
Of course, our program will continue doing things the right way and will never be converted to the dark side of complaining.
To NCAAW, please don't just keep silent pretending nothing has happened because ISU didn't complain. Please do the right things and give us WBB fans nationwide a proper response. An apology letter would be appreciated at least.
1) You can read CBF's comment about "Weight Room Gate" in this post.
2) Ashley Joens even tweeted about how good the food is while players from other schools complain about it.
3) CBF is postgame interview is a pure class without any complaints about the officiating. You can watch the entire press conference (including Ashley's) on Cyclones.tv
https://cyclones.com/watch/?Archive=17994&category=5&type=Archive
However, I find it incredibly ironic and unbelievable that with all the positivity and appreciation ISU has shown to the NCAAW, they still jabbed us with this kind of BS officiating. Trust me NCAAW has a lot of casual fans last night. If NCAAW wants to advocate women's sports equality and grow women's sports, make sure you do the right things within women's sports first.
When a good program like ISU has done enough good things in the sport it participates in, it got to be rewarded the way it deserves. We deserve to be in the Sweet Sixteen this year. We don't want to wait for another year and who knows what will happen next time?
Of course, our program will continue doing things the right way and will never be converted to the dark side of complaining.
To NCAAW, please don't just keep silent pretending nothing has happened because ISU didn't complain. Please do the right things and give us WBB fans nationwide a proper response. An apology letter would be appreciated at least.
