CHRIS COLVIN!!!!!!

Clonehomer

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I like the Garrett / Colvin backcourt. I don't think Colvin is ready to break presses against teams like Missouri and KState. Garrett has shown that he can handle the ball without turning it over and can drive to the basket when it's open. If we can get the passes to the middle like we were seeing Saturday, then I don't think we need the 3 point shooting from Christopherson on the floor at all times. Gilstrap should be enough to deter teams from packing it in against Brackins and Big Ham.

I think last night was a big step for this team. We showed that we can win games without relying on the 3 point shot. If this continues, it should help solve the scoring drought problems we have seen in the past.
 

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Sad commentary, but Brackins wasn't ready for that pass because DG isn't capable of setting him up like that! One things for certain, the more time Colvin spends on the court, the fewer times we'll see "bigs" surprised in that manner - they'll be expecting the ball in their hands!

I love Colvin's quickness. It's long driven me nuts how easily DG gets out of position when his responsibility runs him off a couple screens. Last night Colvin trails his guy around a pair of screens and hits the last one like a WR coming out of his break, almost beating the guy to the pass on the wing and ending up in perfect defensive position. I know it's just "flashes of brilliance" at this point, but WOW at the athleticism. Some people on this board are predicting his departure - I hope they're mistaken...

That happened right in front of me. Two things. #1, Craig probably wasn't ready but #2, had he been, the pass would have still gone OB. He led him by too much. It was still a hell of an idea though.
 

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Isn't it nice to see what Brackins can do when he receives the ball from a point guard when he (Brackins) is low and in a position to score?
 

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Isn't it nice to see what Brackins can do when he receives the ball from a point guard when he (Brackins) is low and in a position to score?

...and when he makes his move faster, and when he is not double-teamed immediately. It seems that last night they were double-teaming after he would put the ball on the floor, and then it was to late most of the time.
 

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I think Colvin played great as well and gave his teammates some easy packets with penetration. I would really like to see at starting lineup of Ham, Dendy, Brackins, Gilstrap, and Garrett. Dendy is so much more comfortable in the post than Craig and catches the ball closer to the basket. It would enable Craig to utilize his 15-20 foot game, drive to the basket, and eliminate double teams in the post. Additionally, it would creat matchup problems in the post and wing with 4 players 6'7" or taller.
 

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I think Colvin played great as well and gave his teammates some easy packets with penetration. I would really like to see at starting lineup of Ham, Dendy, Brackins, Gilstrap, and Garrett. Dendy is so much more comfortable in the post than Craig and catches the ball closer to the basket. It would enable Craig to utilize his 15-20 foot game, drive to the basket, and eliminate double teams in the post. Additionally, it would creat matchup problems in the post and wing with 4 players 6'7" or taller.

Who is going to play defense? Dendy is getting the hack-a-Dendy treatment. Craig's outside game has been awful since Houston (4/22 on his threes since then). Craig can't drive to the basket well. Gilstrap isn't a good enough jump shooter to do that. You can't put Ham, Dendy, and Brackins together on the floor. A 2-3 zone would absolutely kill that lineup, and the other team would score at will.
 

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If we could watch the game film we would see that DG tried to lose the game in the first 8 minutes, and Gilstrap tried hard to cost us the game in the last 10. Probably the poorest 10 minute stretch of decision making we have seen out of Gilstrap.
I agree with many others. Live and die with the late season maturity of a freshmen point guard, use his skills, let him start at the point, depending on who the opponent is put DG or Christopherson at the 2. We cannot afford to have DG at the point dribbling for 30 seconds, attempting entry passes from the top of the key, unable to be a scoring or passing threat. I agree that against Baylor and KSU, we need to offset their guards with DG and CC.
CC will turn it over, and could develop a foul problem, but we have Buckley.
The opposition may or may not get steals from DG, but they certainly know that on the majority of nights, he is no outside threat, and misses consistently on the drive, and unless a teammate is wide open, he will not pass them the ball in the lane. The above is not criticism, but it is fact.
 

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I know it was just 1 game but I almost wouldn't mind expirimenting with moving SC back to the bench, move DG over to off guard and see what Colvin can do running the offense. If he can create opportunities like he did Saturday and keep feeding our big men the ball it could really open up the offense more for Gilstrap and SC coming off the bench to get a few more looks on the perimeter.

PG play has really hindered us this season. DG frustrates me enough already, dribbles too much, can't finish around the basket, not much of an outside shooter, and poor court vision sometimes. Colvin showed what a real PG is supposed to do and it's no coincidence when he was in the game Brackins got a lot more touches.
 

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I don't get you guys wanting DG and CC on the floor at once with CC at the point. If you take the ball out of DGs hand I don't think he does us any good. He doesn't stretch the floor and he isn't aggressive enough to really be a threat.
 

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Who is going to play defense? Dendy is getting the hack-a-Dendy treatment. Craig's outside game has been awful since Houston (4/22 on his threes since then). Craig can't drive to the basket well. Gilstrap isn't a good enough jump shooter to do that. You can't put Ham, Dendy, and Brackins together on the floor. A 2-3 zone would absolutely kill that lineup, and the other team would score at will.

Who is shooting the three for us now. Lucca is gone, Christopherson is spotty, DG can't hit it and Colvin has shown us nothing. Craig's game has been awful as he is getting double teamed in the post, getting pushed out of the block, and had to create shots out of nothing. In this lineup Craig has an advantage with a post guarding him on the wing or can take a smaller wing down low. Dendy is more athletic and quicker than almost any post guarding him and has a knack for getting open. Gilstap shoots the three pretty well and would still have the opportunity to drive to the basket. As for Garrett nothing would change.
 

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I don't get you guys wanting DG and CC on the floor at once with CC at the point. If you take the ball out of DGs hand I don't think he does us any good. He doesn't stretch the floor and he isn't aggressive enough to really be a threat.
That's my thoughts, too. I don't get it. I think you need more of an offensive threat at the 2.
 

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Who is shooting the three for us now. Lucca is gone, Christopherson is spotty, DG can't hit it and Colvin has shown us nothing. Craig's game has been awful as he is getting double teamed in the post, getting pushed out of the block, and had to create shots out of nothing. In this lineup Craig has an advantage with a post guarding him on the wing or can take a smaller wing down low. Dendy is more athletic and quicker than almost any post guarding him and has a knack for getting open. Gilstap shoots the three pretty well and would still have the opportunity to drive to the basket. As for Garrett nothing would change.

Dendy can make some really good plays. But watch what he doesn't do. He gets out of postion easily, takes poor shots, doesn't pass out when he should, always tries to make up for poor position/decision with a block. Maybe some of this will improve with more minutes. He can provide a good spark(which a bench player should do), but right nowif he played starter minutes his negatives may outweigh his positives. I am also not sold on CC/DG combo. DG is too one dimensional right now.
 

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Great game out of colvin against CU. Him and Ham were the keys to that win. I kept yelling sit DG. I understand he was 3-6 from the field and 4-4 FT but after the teardrop airball and then the stupid turnovers i was pretty suprised he wasnt on the bench more. Not to mention everytime and alley oop from DG goes up...its not completed. Complete opposite from Colvin and cant wait to see him more. I would love to see DG develop a better shot and play the 2 and colvin at the 1 if thats a possibility
 

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That's my thoughts, too. I don't get it. I think you need more of an offensive threat at the 2.
True but what else do you do? Sit him? I would love to see more of colvin and buckley on the court as opposed to DG but mcdermott wont bench a 3 year starter whether he should have his minutes taken or not unfortunately. Before too much discussion id like to see if colvin can do this consistantly which i believe he can and will
 

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True but what else do you do? Sit him? I would love to see more of colvin and buckley on the court as opposed to DG but mcdermott wont bench a 3 year starter whether he should have his minutes taken or not unfortunately. Before too much discussion id like to see if colvin can do this consistantly which i believe he can and will

DG at the 1 and Colvin off the ball. That''s right now. DG has hit some shots this year. I just don't think DG is offensively aggressive enough to be effective at the 2. I really don't trust Buckley right now. That could change if he get's more minutes, but right now I think our two best guards are CC and DG.

It should also be noted COlvin shouldn't have even played at CU.:jimlad:
 

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I don't get you guys wanting DG and CC on the floor at once with CC at the point. If you take the ball out of DGs hand I don't think he does us any good. He doesn't stretch the floor and he isn't aggressive enough to really be a threat.

Well it's not like DG has done us a whole lot of good with the ball in his hands either. That's part of the problem with Brackins performance, DG holds onto the ball too much then can't get the ball too him on top of it.

More touches for Brackins >> DG not taking as many shots and handling the ball less from the 2 guard spot.
 

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I certainly was not promoting the line up of DG and CC all the time. My point was that having Gilstrap, Brackins, Dendy athleticism on the back side, against alot of ball pressure, we may need DG and CC in at the same time. I agree with needing the 3 that DG cannot provide, but CC can and I am confident will contribute here as well. A healthy Scott should be the primary backcourt partner with CC. To repeat, I believe that a line up that includes Gilstrap, Brackins and Dendy, can function well with DG and CC. If you have Ham vs. Dendy, and if you have less on the ball pressure, Scott is certainly a better choice. I just think we need the ability to penetrate and find the open teammate that Colvin brings, and we need to live with the learning curve. Some will state that we tried that with DG as a freshmen, but the two as freshmen are not comparable.
 

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Here's the biggest compliment right now I can give Colvin:

Every once in a while, he causes me to remember Tinsley. Note that he doesn't directly remind me of Tinsley or anything -- but a couple of those passes made me reminisce a little bit.
 

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I wouldn't mind seeing DG take some minutes
at the 3 when Gilstrap gets a break.
From a defensive stand point it gives us a bigger
body to use for matching up.

Plus using a guard instead of a post to back up the 3
gives us 3 bodies up front for 2 positions instead of 4
for 3.
 
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Here's the biggest compliment right now I can give Colvin:

Every once in a while, he causes me to remember Tinsley. Note that he doesn't directly remind me of Tinsley or anything -- but a couple of those passes made me reminisce a little bit.

Agree. And he sort of physically looks like Jamaal, IMO...
 

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