Does this team make a bowl at 5-7?

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First off love your teams! Hope the best for you. You have great coaches in a lot of your sports! Yeah the bowls are watered down. Nobody watches lots of them. Wasn't there a year when Earle Bruce had like an 8-3 team not make a bowl? That sucked! Good team! It use to mean something when bowl scouts were at the games! I think the 15 extra practices is overblown some. Think about it 26 players for Iowa practicing are going to be gone next year! They are good if you start a young team! Like I said good job and great ranking you had in the directors cup! Way to represent! Not a backhanded compliment either! This is why I would take ISU in the Big 10 any day! You have a great university and good teams that are fun to watch and another great Iowa team to follow!
Have a great night from a hawkfanatic! Wish we had a site as good as this one!
Thanks Chris for all the hard work you put into it!
 

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this is how i feel about going to a bowl game with a 5-7 record:
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Yep. Said it when we were in Tempe. "Glad we're here...but 6-6 teams shouldn't be playing bowl games." It used to be an accomplishment to make it to a bowl game, and especially New Years Day bowls. Now? Yippee. You went .500. Here's a crappy bowl just because we want your money.
I'm not going to say I don't agree with you. However, I do like to see up and coming 6-6/7-5 teams that don't make a bowl game year in and year out, such as Iowa State last year, make a bowl game allowing them much needed extra practices in the month of December.

In this day and age of 35 or so bowl games, I would like to see a stipulation put into place to give New Year's Day bowl games their luster again. Something along the lines that it take 6 wins to qualify for a bowl game, x-amount of wins to qualify for a January 1st bowl game.
 

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For what it's worth, on the ESPN standings page, Iowa State has an x next to their name. Which, according to ESPN, means: x - Cannot become bowl eligible.

2010 NCAA College Football Standings - ESPN
Unless there is an open spot.
I count 65 teams eligible and only about 12 with a realistic shot that can still make it, but I don't think teams like Texas, Colorado, Rutgers, Houston, Tennessee, and Idaho will get 6th wins. I think it's possible a 5-7 team might make it...... but not saying it would be us.
 

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I'm not going to say I don't agree with you. However, I do like to see up and coming 6-6/7-5 teams that don't make a bowl game year in and year out, such as Iowa State last year, make a bowl game allowing them much needed extra practices in the month of December.

In this day and age of 35 or so bowl games, I would like to see a stipulation put into place to give New Year's Day bowl games their luster again. Something along the lines that it take 6 wins to qualify for a bowl game, x-amount of wins to qualify for a January 1st bowl game.

All that is going to do is get tosu, michigan, MSU and the SEC teams to play still more sister mary of the poors to make sure that they get those wins. I think the #of wins threshold is a bad thing for BCS football. Look at ISU we consistantly play one of the tougher schedules in the country. Now if we get to 9-3 and they say you need 10 wins to play on New years, that puts 10-2 Ole miss in playing 4 crap non conf. or Northern Ill in when we all know they are a good team not a NYD bowl team.

I'd like to see a bit less team jumping. I know, I know. last year, but its bound to come back around. And I know a lot of people aren't going to like it, but I'd give the BCS Ranking more power as far as limiting bowl jumping. I think it would encourage more quality conference "cross-pollination" in the nonconference scheduling.
 
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All that is going to do is get the SEC teams to play still more sister mary of the poors to make sure that they get those wins. I think the #of wins threshold is a bad thing for BCS football. Look at ISU we consistantly play one of the tougher schedules in the country. Now if we get to 9-3 and they say you need 10 wins to play on New years, that puts 10-2 Ole miss in playing 4 crap non conf. or Northern Ill in when we all know they are a good team not a NYD bowl team.

I'd like to see a bit less team jumping. I know, I know. last year, but its bound to come back around. I know a lot of people aren't going to like it, but I'd give the BCS Ranking more power as far as limiting bowl jumping.
That could be one of the stipulations. Even if you set a certain number of wins, whether it be 9, 10, or whatever, there is bound to be more teams that qualify based on number of wins then are spots available for January 1st or later bowls. Have one of the first tiebreakers, as to who gets priority to a January bowl, be strength of schedule.

That and/or have it where a 9-3 team with a s.o.s. at a certain level or above gets the nod over a 10-2 team with a s.o.s. that is a certain level or lower.
 

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Interesting conversation on College Gameday today. There is a petition for 5-7 teams to go to a bowl. There might not be enough 6-6 teams to fill all the bowl slots. If this comes to pass, I see no way we would be skipped over with the #1 schedule in the country.

I'm not sure what stipulations are left for 5-7 teams going because of auto-bid slots being unfilled — although I'm guessing Pac-10 would have some part of that.

I doubt it's going to happen, but for arguments' sake, let's say ISU got a bid this season at 5-7:

1. Since it's all about $, I could see accepting it.

2. Beyond (1), there is no competitive upside (and I don't care how much the "extra practice" seems to be an argument). There would be merciless hounding about how a 5-7 got invited, and it's lose-lose whether you win (just beat another team that probably didn't deserve a bid, either) or lose (no explanation necessary).

I hate having 6-6 teams qualify, just because I don't think teams that finish with losing records (after a bowl loss) should have been there in the first place. EXCEPTION: If the team's schedule was an extreme anomaly (and, no, ISU's schedule in 2010 was not in that category — challenging, but not asterisk-worthy).

I'd rather put this season to rest. Quite a few thrilling moments, a lot to be happy about as far as the big picture. Record was what I expected (although involving different teams in the W&L) so it didn't seem like a huge backslide. But ISU had 3 chances to secure a bid and didn't do it, and blew another chance vs. KSU that could have done it. How many more chances do we need?

ISU beat two bowl teams this season, NIU & Tech and possibly a third (Texas), and finished with a losing record. I'm going to let it go.
 

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No, and quite frankly I think it's ridiculous teams with 6 wins go to bowl games. Like the days when you had to win at least 7 or 8 games to go to post-season.

You mean back when there were only 9 or 10 bowl games? Granted 30 bowl games is probably too many but I love all (ok most) the bowl games - I suppose if the NCAA would only allow 20 bowl games then the problem would fix itself.

If the NCAA wanted to really level the playing field they would allow all Div I teams to practice the same number of practices as the teams who qualify for bowls. Not allowing the practices just makes the dispairity between the haves and have nots even harder to overcome.
 

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Not without any signature wins.

I see the bowl game as a reward for THE PLAYERS not the fans.
If the offer comes the players should choose.
They are the ones putting out the effort, training, practicing, if they want to keep going let them.
I'm sorry its not about the fans, its for the players and their chances to play the game they love.
The season is over for now, we all wanted them to get to 6-6.
We stood up toe to toe with some of the bigger programs and gave a tremendous effort some we won some we lost. Thats why we play the game. Everyone picked us last in the Big 12 North, and all of us knew better.
They showed improvement from 1st game to last game , if you ask Tiller, Lamack,A-Rob ,Franklin, Knott, Kline, Parker, do you want to have one more shot, what do you think they'd answer.
What they decide is how I feel.
 

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I hope like hell 6-6 teams fill all the slots. There is no reason 5-7 should get you into a bowl. 6-6 shouldn't get you into a bowl.


I hope like hell there are no 6-6 teams that go bowling this year b/c they don't deserve it either. Unfornately for me though, I will be disappointed.
 

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Just another example how we have too many bowl games. I still feel a 6-6 team shouldn't go to a bowl, you should have a winning record to be awarded post-season play and it used to be that way at one time actually till they added all these extra bowls.
 

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oh by the way

we lost SEVEN games


i guess everyone deserves a ribbon and a cupcake at the end of the year for all their hard work? Jeesh. Have some pride. Going to bowl games when you suck makes going to bowl games when you're good less fun.
 

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Well, if you get into the deserving it game, there are probably only about a dozen teams who really deserve the reward.
Bowl season is a really quirky thing to begin with. If you are old enough you remember an 8-3 Earle Bruce coached ISU team, who was pretty good and did not go.
People are attaching a nobility and grandeur to bowl games that they haven't deserved for years.
It's just another game, you're damn right they'd go unless it wasn't going to make money.