Just FYI - CR 1st ave and 10th street w has
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Because it's breaking the law. Why the 10mph buffer? Why not 5mph? Why not 1mph?
How about camera's that ticket if you don't use your turn signal? How about camera's that look for people who cross the center line? How about camera's that track cars that drive in the passing lane without passing?
It's a slippery slope. It started with red light camera's and people decided that those were ok so then they moved to speed camera's with high buffers. What do you think will happen when the city is not meeting their financial needs? How much more money could they bring in by dropping it to 9mph?
If the government so so worried about this how about setting up some electronics that will not physically allow cars to go above a certain speed. It really wouldn't be that hard.
It's all about the money. I'm willing to be that there will be less accidents on this stretch of road (near the camera's) before the camera's were installed.
The database is online - If you want to prove me wrong, post a link to the entry that is for 7 over:
Here's a link that looked at each intersection:
“Snap Judgement”: The Cedar Rapids Traffic Cameras, 8 Months Later | Eastern Iowa Government
The police chief of CR says that accidents are down by 9% in the city. This is from the link in my previous post:
As for your slippery slope argument, I don't buy it. I feel perfectly comfortable to say I support the cameras for one purpose but don't for another. I also don't think this is about money, which is why I support it at 12 mph over, but I wouldn't at 5. At 12 over you are really catching the people speeding at a dangerous level, rather than those whose speedometer may be off, or accidentally sped up 5mph too much.
I said "What I've gathered is that in town anything over 6 over is ticketable and on the interstate its 11 and over."
I will rephrase; The in-town roads (IE: Collins, 1st ave, etc) is 6 and over, then on the interstate, which isnt(IMO) an in-town road, it's 11 and over. Make sense now? Guess I need to write up an explanation for my posts.
From Traffic Camera Data | TheGazette
These "red light cameras" are only catching red light violators for less than 5% of the total tickets generated.
By the numbers – Through Dec. 15
Red light citations: 2,892 (4.9 percent)
Speed citations: 55,308 (95.1 percent)
Total citations: 58,200
They should call them Governmental Automatic Revenue Generators Via Police State Oversight. GARGVPSO.
These "red light cameras" are only catching red light violators for less than 5% of the total tickets generated.
By the numbers – Through Dec. 15
Red light citations: 2,892 (4.9 percent)
Speed citations: 55,308 (95.1 percent)
Total citations: 58,200
They should call them Governmental Automatic Revenue Generators Via Police State Oversight. GARGVPSO.
I said "What I've gathered is that in town anything over 6 over is ticketable and on the interstate its 11 and over."
I will rephrase; The in-town roads (IE: Collins, 1st ave, etc) is 6 and over, then on the interstate, which isnt(IMO) an in-town road, it's 11 and over. Make sense now? Guess I need to write up an explanation for my posts.
It made sense the first time, its just wrong. As I have cited in source after source in this thread, none of the cameras have given a single ticket for less than 11 over, regardless of whether they are in town or on the interstate.
You don't think they did this for the money? Wow. If they didn't then I assume they will take all the profit they make from this and return it to the taxpayers of Iowa?
So accidents are down 6% over the whole city and this can all be attributed to the camera's? What about that section of road?
So you've decided that 12 over is the point where it becomes dangerous? Well the speed limit is 55 so I would say that is the speed that they consider it safe. If they thought it was 60mph than they would mark it as 60mph not 55mph. In reality, if the speed limit is 55mph than you really should drive 50mph to leave yourself a little cushion.
BTW
KTAR.com - State lowers speed buffer, introduces AZ FAST Pass
Look at any of the cameras in the 35 mph zone and you will find your answer. You already have the link why would I post the same thing again for you?
Because I don't have a link. There is not a single instance in the database on the gazette where anyone was given a ticket for going less than 11 over.
The only camera at an intersection with a 35mph speed limit is 1st and L, and the lowest ticket speed given there is 47mph.
That is, if they actually set the speed limits by some sort of standard, and not completely arbitrarily.
No way you can tell me it wouldnt be just fine to have I235 set at a higher speed through des moines, especially after the widening.
I will admit, it just hit me what you were saying. I thought we were debating the interstate, honestly my bad. I now get what you are saying. I was told by a person affiliated wit hthe law enforcement here that it was "supposed" to be 6 for in-town, if not, so be it. Once again, my misunderstanding. Been a long week.
Traffic Camera Data | TheGazette
Traffic Camera Data | TheGazette
there are a couple expamples I am not sure if my search results will show up in the links though
If the city of cedar rapids REALLY wanted to make the interstate safer through town, they would set a special speed limit for semis of 40 MPH and make them stay in the right hand lane, especially on the S curve.
Do you really think they will do that ---- I am expecting some kind of mean and nasty letter first. We'll see.
I'm guessing they'd do like the parking tickets and send it to a contacted collection agency.
then its just $10-15 extra for the collections agency, but they can threaten they'll affect your credit score.
truf. I look out my office window at that curve - and every accident I can remember was a semi. At least 1 a year actually has part of the semi hangin off the roadway.
