If he ends up 6-7 or 6-8 like Doug, I agree. Better perimeter skills than Doug, but probably less proficient on the block. Imo, he appears to be a better athlete. He has some time to refine his game too.
Kale Abrahamson
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If he ends up 6-7 or 6-8 like Doug, I agree. Better perimeter skills than Doug, but probably less proficient on the block. Imo, he appears to be a better athlete. He has some time to refine his game too.
Exactly. If it comes down to it, he may even be able to RS his freshmen year. I like this kid and I think that the staff may as well. He and his AAU team are playing in Indy this weekend, so it couls be interesting to see if he picks up any more offers.
this is my thought minus the lol...
He's a 3 in Fred's system, the 2012 class has other needs. Not only will we be losing Allen and Scottie as SGs but Booker will be a SR and there's a decent chance White would be looking to turn pro leaving us Railey and Godfrey as the only returning Posts. I think we'll sign 2 SGs and a Post. Hopefully Jok in 13 is our next SF signing giving him a year in the system behind Ejim before he becomes a starter.
I really like this kid. He really handles the ball well for his size and can shoot it. His size and versatility could be a positive on defense too. Alot of kids can shoot it, can handle it, but in order to play in the Big 12 you've got to have the foot speed to go along with it and in person I really thought he has a chance. I'm also old and out of shape so alot of things look quick to me though.:unsure: :unsure:
I think the final selling point to our staff on this kid will be his ball handling and shooting ability for his size. I know that college basketball has changed quite a bit in recent years, but I would think that a 6'8-6'10(depending how much he grows) player with his skills is still a luxury.
I think the final selling point to our staff on this kid will be his ball handling and shooting ability for his size. I know that college basketball has changed quite a bit in recent years, but I would think that a 6'8-6'10(depending how much he grows) player with his skills is still a luxury.
I don't think he is big 12 quality so I say pass on him. He does not have enough muscle and weight to make it in the big 12.
Excuse me, but this is really short-sighted. He is 17 (likely) and growing!! Note the quote from the ESPN scouting profile regarding his growth in the past year:
"Bottom Line:
Kale needs to improve his strength once he finally stops growing. He has grown 3 inches in the last year and could grow a couple more."
Now, he may not be skilled enough, or the coaches decide he does not fit needs/ within the offense. But the excuse "he's not strong enough" is bogus - for any HS big man. How many 6'-7" 17 yr olds do you know that have the body of a major-conf big man? FEW. and if they're skilled enough, they get recruited to the top programs in the country.
If he ends up 6-7 (current listed height fwiw) or 6-8, why would he be guarding the 2 position?
While Kale definitely needs to add strength, he doesn't need to add significant pounds. He's not a post player and is completely different from a Doug McDermott or Elgin Cook, like some have alluded to.
He's a perimeter player at the college level and I would compare him to a kid like Ricky Kreklow at Missouri.
He's a perimeter player at the college level and I would compare him to a kid like Ricky Kreklow at Missouri.
Looks like a SF to me, which by some convention is considered a front-court player.
Sign me up if he will end up as a 6-8 SF that can shoot and handle.
Because he isn't going to be guarding the post. He is a perimeter player so he would guard the 2 or 3.
If so binary, why not also ask if he can guard a 1?
All he needs to be able is to guard the three. If he ends up growing a few more inches, he will have the length to be an effective perimeter defender.
He already has the length but I just don't know if he has the quickness but we'll see. Because it doesn't seem like we have many other options. I won't be mad if he does come here I just think we might be able to do better.
He does not have the quickness to guard a three? I disagree, especially if he ends up over 6-7.
I penalize him for having trouble guarding the two as much as I would a pg or shooting guard not being able to guard the three.
We do not have many other options for a season two years away? Ridiculous statement. We have several options left for 2011, let alone 2012.
Defensively, he'll have issues guarding a guy like Kris Middleton from A&M or a JP Olukemi from Oklahoma State, but those are the types of guys he'll be matched up with (obviously not those guys, because they'll be gone, but that type of player).
At this point in basketball, I don't know that you can really label a guy as a conventional 3 or 2. Guys are essentially wings that lean more toward or away from a perimeter player. Abrahamson, though 6'7"-6'8" is more of a perimeter type. Ejim, at 6'5", who also is (allegedly) a wing, leans more toward the skills of a post player. The fact is, with some development, these guys are interchangeable and that is why they're valuable.
I'm of the opinion that you need multiple guys of variable skill between that 6'5"-6'8" range to give your team versatility on both ends. Conventionally, Kale and Ejim would both be labeled a 3, but obviously both offer different skill sets and different talents, and that is why you need multiple guys in that height range and skill level.
At this point in basketball, I don't know that you can really label a guy as a conventional 3 or 2. Guys are essentially wings that lean more toward or away from a perimeter player. Abrahamson, though 6'7"-6'8" is more of a perimeter type. Ejim, at 6'5", who also is (allegedly) a wing, leans more toward the skills of a post player. The fact is, with some development, these guys are interchangeable and that is why they're valuable.
I'm of the opinion that you need multiple guys of variable skill between that 6'5"-6'8" range to give your team versatility on both ends. Conventionally, Kale and Ejim would both be labeled a 3, but obviously both offer different skill sets and different talents, and that is why you need multiple guys in that height range and skill level.
I think the belief is Okoro is or will be come a two...but physically he is big enough for the three (versatility over Kale). I think Kale grows into a conventional SF. If he does, he is a Big 12 player imo.
I am more of the thinking Kale was in competition with Stauskas that just committed to Michigan (6-6 good shooting wing).
