Awesome ending to WWE RAW tonight

[nj829]

It's hard to see Cena missing Summerslam, would think he would take off between Summerslam and the end of the year, with maybe a Survivor Series return.

Punk could win the belt this month though, then build up to a return match at SS in which Cena gets "injured" and takes time off.

 

[Gnomeborg]

What's awesome about that is everything he said is true. Wrestling today sucks and after Vince passes it will get worse because Steph and Triple H running things behind the scenes will be a joke. I just hate how "kiddie and PG" wrestling has become. Punk mentioned Paul Heyman. I wish Heyman could of have the power and resources that Vince has because if he did wrestling would be so much better.

Except that by all acounts, this CM Punk thing, from the planting of the contract problems to the months of lead up, Punk getting pushed constantly, just never quite "good enough" so he's always on our TVs but doesn't seem to be utilized (they kept him on comentary when he was recovering from injury) this whole thing is HHH's proving ground. This is his first big story line. This is the thing he wants to do with the company.

 

[Hawkeye11en1]

The Rock weighs in:

Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson blasts CM Punk for his WWE RAW promo - National Fight Sports | Examiner.com

If CM Punk and the Rock could have a little feud while Cena is "fired" (i.e. heals up from injuries), that could be amazing.

I just realized how many posts you have. Winning.

 

[Gnomeborg]

Raw will never get better until Vince realizes that Cena is a down-card guy with an awful character that will never be able to carry the company.

Meanwhile, a legend like the Undertaker toils in relative obscurity. It makes not one iota of sense.

I'm not a Cena fan by any stretch of the imagination. But he IS carrying the company. No one sells more merch, no one gets more reaction (good or negative). Cena is carrying the company. It'd be hard to claim he's not.

Second, Undertaker's "toiling" in obscurity is because, medically, physically, he's got 5 matches left in him, tops. He's old, broken, and ready to be done. 20-0 is the only reason he's not retired yet. Vince would put him on TV every hour of every show he has if he could. It's Taker who's limiting it.

 

[Hawkeye11en1]

Pretty much all you need to do it tune in at the beginning of raw and end of raw. This weeks raw was terrible until the Punk rant at the end. That WWE these days 80 % crap 20 % worth watching. I do like Riley since he turned on Miz. I don't know who I hate more the Miz or Cena. Cena with his hero like persona and the Miz with his over use of the word "really". He does it everyone at my workplace uses the word. Cena's finisher used to be known as the "F You" and now it's "attitude adjustment" Barf.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vxiQ9JCKvE]YouTube - ‪The Miz : Really ?‬‏[/ame]

 

[CycloneErik]

This is kind of what I'm expecting, the 2nd Summer of Punk:

Inside Pulse Wrestling | Monday Morning Backlash on WWE Raw’s Summer of CM Punk II

 

[nj829]

CycloneErik, I sure hope you save your 30,000 post for a wrestling thread. As Miz would say, that would be AWESOME!!!

 

[CycloneErik]

CycloneErik, I sure hope you save your 30,000 post for a wrestling thread. As Miz would say, that would be AWESOME!!!

Just have to keep this going.....

 

[Gnomeborg]

This is kind of what I'm expecting, the 2nd Summer of Punk:

Inside Pulse Wrestling | Monday Morning Backlash on WWE Raw’s Summer of CM Punk II

I lived through the Summer of Punk. I have loved Punk for a long time. It was primarily this plot that made me so disappointed when WWE brought him in as a Face. He's the best heel in the buisiness.

 

[CycloneErik]

I lived through the Summer of Punk. I have loved Punk for a long time. It was primarily this plot that made me so disappointed when WWE brought him in as a Face. He's the best heel in the buisiness.

I'd like to see that whole summer sometime. I agree, though. Punk's all bad guy, and he's the very best at it. When they turned him loose with Jeff Hardy, that was great stuff.

Or his fan arguments in England, great stuff. Punk can youtube away an entire afternoon.

 

[Rural]

I'm not a Cena fan by any stretch of the imagination. But he IS carrying the company. No one sells more merch, no one gets more reaction (good or negative). Cena is carrying the company. It'd be hard to claim he's not.

Second, Undertaker's "toiling" in obscurity is because, medically, physically, he's got 5 matches left in him, tops. He's old, broken, and ready to be done. 20-0 is the only reason he's not retired yet. Vince would put him on TV every hour of every show he has if he could. It's Taker who's limiting it.

Cena's carrying the company all right. Right over the cliff.

 

[michaelrr1]

Sweet!! Those two have done things I have never seen done before.


how did you find out about the matchup?

Exclusive: Early WWE WrestleMania 28 Plans & Matches - Wrestlezone.com

"After speaking with sources I have learned the early plans as of now for next year's WrestleMania 28 card.

Obviously The Rock vs John Cena and the plan is to have the WWE title be on the line in that match.


The Undertaker vs Chris Jericho would also be on the card. A rematch between Triple H and The Undertaker is rumored to take place at this year's SummerSlam.


Triple H would go to WrestleMania next year going up against The Miz.


Alberto Del Rio vs Randy Orton.


Sin Cara vs Rey Mysterio.


And the celebrity involvement that the WWE is hoping for is Big Show in a match against retired NBA star Shaq.


These plans are all subject to change between now the start of 2012 based on injuries and other factors. As of now, this is the card that the WWE is looking to have for WrestleMania 28 in Miami."

 

[Tre4ISU]

I fully believe WWE needs Jericho back. Like him or hate him, he was a great performer. He was incredibly underrated. His articulation was great and could come up with some of the funniest ****. It looks like Sting will never be there so they are going to have find something.

 

[CycloneRulzzz]

I fully believe WWE needs Jericho back. Like him or hate him, he was a great performer. He was incredibly underrated. His articulation was great and could come up with some of the funniest ****. It looks like Sting will never be there so they are going to have find something.

agree. Another problem wcw had was having guys like jericho not getting a chance. Upon his arrival in WWE he was instantly a bigger star than he was in WCW. His promos with the Rock were awesome.

 

[Tre4ISU]

agree. Another problem wcw had was having guys like jericho not getting a chance. Upon his arrival in WWE he was instantly a bigger star than he was in WCW. His promos with the Rock were awesome.

Yeah but can you blame WCW? They had so many personalities at that time. There was no way to make enough time. That company didn't go down for lack of creativity and story, it went down because it was managed very poorly on the business end. I will also say the lead up to Jericho coming into WWE was one of, if not the best storylines there has been. People knew who it was going to be, but they didn't know and after that he just rolled with it. One of my favorites even if I hated him 90% of the time.

 

[Tre4ISU]

This was his first appearance. The first line out of his mouth was instant success.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8p4PpRBNqE]YouTube - ‪Y2J DEBUT‬‏[/ame]

 

[CyBroncos]

I fully believe WWE needs Jericho back. Like him or hate him, he was a great performer. He was incredibly underrated. His articulation was great and could come up with some of the funniest ****. It looks like Sting will never be there so they are going to have find something.

Jericho was great as a smug heel

 

[mj4cy]

I think Chris Jericho debuted sometime around when RAW was up in Hilton. I thought he was an idiot then, but apparently he grew into a star.

 

[mj4cy]

Thinking to RAW the other night....I assume Cena will lose and get fired...AKA him taking some vaca....I do admit anytime Vince is back in the ring, its great for the brand.

 

[CycloneRulzzz]

Thinking to RAW the other night....I assume Cena will lose and get fired...AKA him taking some vaca....I do admit anytime Vince is back in the ring, its great for the brand.

Used to be great, but Vince had really aged and lost his gusto. A wrestling site I frequent has two guys that do a live show right after raw and podcast. They both agree though that as good as Punk's promo was a week ago the Vince / Cena promo was horrible. I'm glad that we won't be seeing Cena anytime soon after Money in the Bank. Time to push Alex Riley.