***Official Who's Wanting to Leave the Big XII Thread***

Cyclone46

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Does anyone honestly think Mizzou gets into the SEC as well? Texas A&M barely got accepted and they are far better academically and have a much stronger athletic tradition.

TAM is not accepted yet. They jumped before knowing where they would land. That doesn't mean they won't get accepted, but as of today, they are homeless in 2012.
 

JUKEBOX

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TAM is not accepted yet. They jumped before knowing where they would land. That doesn't mean they won't get accepted, but as of today, they are homeless in 2012.

I thought they got a 9/12 vote?
 

Chipper

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TAM is not accepted yet. They jumped before knowing where they would land. That doesn't mean they won't get accepted, but as of today, they are homeless in 2012.

This is not true. Texas A&M and the SEC are minimizing chances of litigation at the moment.
 

tm3308

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Consider the source....(Check profile pic)

1. I've gone on the record many times since last summer that I want what's best for ISU to be what shakes out.

2. Consider the quote below (Which states very clearly WHY I don't think it would be wise in the event that Texas and OU both left. Which I hope doesn't happen.)

That would require KU, KSU, MU, ISU, and BU to remain solid. If this goes down, I find it hard to believe all 5 will hold out until July 1. The potential losses due to being left out are greater than the exit fees we could collect and split 5 ways.
 

Cyclone46

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This is not true. Texas A&M and the SEC are minimizing chances of litigation at the moment.

Fair enough. But to my understanding, the SEC has not formally accepted TAM and could say tomorrow that the risk isn't worth the reward. If the SEC feels that litigation would be horrible and too painful, they reject the application as it has not be officially accepted. There is potential that TAM doesn't go to the SEC...am I wrong on that?
 

ISUAgronomist

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Fair enough. But to my understanding, the SEC has not formally accepted TAM and could say tomorrow that the risk isn't worth the reward. If the SEC feels that litigation would be horrible and too painful, they reject the application as it has not be officially accepted. There is potential that TAM doesn't go to the SEC...am I wrong on that?

No application has been "officially" sent to or accepted by the SEC. Nothing has changed since informing the Big12 of their exit.
 

Cydkar

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OU may not want to go to the Pac 12 because they recruit Texas so much. They could choose to stay in the B12. I think they are gone though.
 

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I leave for 8 hours and all of a sudden **** goes south. Well **** me.
 

Cyclone46

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No application has been "officially" sent to or accepted by the SEC. Nothing has changed since informing the Big12 of their exit.

Exactly. Now to the original question if Mizzou gets accepted if they try. There is no way I am going to be one of those guys who predicts who goes where. The B12 is on life support and that is all I can guess based on what I know. By nature of being a fan, I have no clue what any school is thinking nor what decisions they make or why.

I can't even understand what my wife is thinking or what she does have the time and I live with her.
 

JUKEBOX

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Could we sue the **** out of Texas and Oklahoma for lying to us?
 

Chipper

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Fair enough. But to my understanding, the SEC has not formally accepted TAM and could say tomorrow that the risk isn't worth the reward. If the SEC feels that litigation would be horrible and too painful, they reject the application as it has not be officially accepted. There is potential that TAM doesn't go to the SEC...am I wrong on that?

You may be correct. I may be woefully overestimating the business powers involved but if you're Texas A&M you don't jump out of the plane without a parachute. Or at least a large net on the ground. I think the ploy is to have A&M appear in limbo for a little while - maybe even knowing the impending Big XII failure. Suddenly the SEC is able to accommodate new applications. Thus A&M avoiding exit costs and SEC avoiding interference lawsuits. That's Big XII doomsday scenario. Other one is A&M simply paying exit costs and landing in their new conference home.

Looking at it on a personal level, how would you feel if Pollard made intentions to remove from Big XI - yet had no plan in place for a position?
 

tm3308

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Could we sue the **** out of Texas and Oklahoma for lying to us?

Only if the rest of the conference stuck together, otherwise the conference is legally dissolved and all bylaws are wiped out.

Although, I'm not sure on what is the majority of teams (which they have to have to still have the bylaws). Is it majority as in 7 of 12, 6 of 10, or 5 of 9?
 

JUKEBOX

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Only if the rest of the conference stuck together, otherwise the conference is legally dissolved and all bylaws are wiped out.

Although, I'm not sure on what is the majority of teams (which they have to have to still have the bylaws). Is it majority as in 7 of 12, 6 of 10, or 5 of 9?

This situation is ****ed up.
 

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Right after we sue every member of government and the media. Liars don't get sued even if it is blatant.

I'm with ya here, but you're technically wrong. Anybody can sue anybody over anything. It would be useless though, considering Texas' pockets are about ten times as deep as ours. I don't like where this is headed folks.
 

Cyclone46

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You may be correct. I may be woefully overestimating the business powers involved but if you're Texas A&M you don't jump out of the plane without a parachute. Or at least a large net on the ground. I think the ploy is to have A&M appear in limbo for a little while - maybe even knowing the impending Big XII failure. Suddenly the SEC is able to accommodate new applications. Thus A&M avoiding exit costs and SEC avoiding interference lawsuits. That's Big XII doomsday scenario. Other one is A&M simply paying exit costs and landing in their new conference home.

Looking at it on a personal level, how would you feel if Pollard made intentions to remove from Big XI - yet had no plan in place for a position?

I don't disagree with you at all. I think any of these scenarios seem possible if not even likely. Both are playing the odds at this point, but for TAM, they are definitely in the weaker position should it go south. The way it looks now, not only is TAM going to hit the SEC, but they aren't going to have to pay the fees for it either.