*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

[IcSyU]

If the Pac 16 doesn't allow partial qualifiers no way in hell Boise State is headed there.

 

[RackEm]

Bob Stoops of Oklahoma Sooners on super-league -- Way 'the world's going' - ESPN

This things is over. If ISU has an offer from the Big East, take it.

 

[cyman05]

If the Pac 16 doesn't allow partial qualifiers no way in hell Boise State is headed there.

And this is what stinks about the current state of college sports. Boise can go undefeated for 5 years straight and probably still never get a shot at the national championship nor get into a major conference because they can't. Yet Washington State could go winless for 5 years straight, draw crowds of 10k per game (not all that far from it now) and feel secure in the PAC16.

 

[Cydwinder]

If the Pac 16 doesn't allow partial qualifiers no way in hell Boise State is headed there.

Not saying it would happen at all. Just saying that would be the ideal situation if TX and the forgotten five were to remain together.

 

[CrossCyed]

The Pac 12 will never invite Boise.

 

[HoopsTournament]

Not saying it would happen at all. Just saying that would be the ideal situation if TX and the forgotten five were to remain together.

Ok, everyone who is on twitter should start a rumor:

Texas and forgotten five to stay in Big 12 and add BYU and ND.

 

[CrossCyed]

It'd be pretty funny if the Forgotten Five were enough to keep the conference bylaws in place, keep a bunch of forfeited revenue, keep the current television contracts (although it appears those can be voided), keep AQ status, and invite a bunch of mid-majors to join.

It also wouldn't be possible. We're worried the Fox contract can be voided if we only have 9 schools. No way five could keep it with the best part of the TV inventory gone.

 

[IcSyU]

And this is what stinks about the current state of college sports. Boise can go undefeated for 5 years straight and probably still never get a shot at the national championship nor get into a major conference because they can't. Yet Washington State could go winless for 5 years straight, draw crowds of 10k per game (not all that far from it now) and feel secure in the PAC16.

They could easily help their own cause. Quit taking partial qualifiers. Then see how well they compete. They have an advantage on every school in some conferences like the Big 12 because they can take players who don't qualify for a real school, put them in classes that are roughly middle school difficulty, and get them eligible. "Oh, you're not going to qualify to get into Oregon? Well why don't you come join us at Boise State. We'll get you eligible."

 

[alarson]

And this is what stinks about the current state of college sports. Boise can go undefeated for 5 years straight and probably still never get a shot at the national championship nor get into a major conference because they can't. Yet Washington State could go winless for 5 years straight, draw crowds of 10k per game (not all that far from it now) and feel secure in the PAC16.

Boise will never get into an AQ because their academics suck. And theyd never be as good as they have been if they had to match up academically.

So no, actually, Boise not making it into an AQ is exactly what's right with college athletics.

 

[Al_4_State]

One way or another, the SEC's 14th team will create a spot for ISU in the Big East.

1) they take Mizzou. We take Mizzou's spot.

2) They take VA Tech. ACC takes Rutgers/Cuse/UConn. Big East needs to fill that slot.

3) They take WVU. Big East needs to fill that slot.

This isn't even considering us bringing more to the table than KSU or the Big East going to 14/16.

 

[alarson]

How much of the KSU\MU\KU talk is coming from KC media sources, whose primary concern is going to be the futures of those 3 teams?

 

[cyman05]

They could easily help their own cause. Quit taking partial qualifiers. Then see how well they compete. They have an advantage on every school in some conferences like the Big 12 because they can take players who don't qualify for a real school, put them in classes that are roughly middle school difficulty, and get them eligible. "Oh, you're not going to qualify to get into Oregon? Well why don't you come join us at Boise State. We'll get you eligible."

Guess I didn't know that about Boise. Anyone have any sort of an accurate count or percentage of how many of their recruits are partial qualifiers?

 

[SenorCy]

I don't know if anyone has posted this yet. Mark Cuban's blog:
So What Should Big 12 Schools Do ? Say No to Super Conferences « blog maverick

 

[HoopsTournament]

Ok, everyone who is on twitter should start a rumor:

Texas and forgotten five to stay in Big 12 and add BYU and ND.

I started it.

Twitter

 

[cyatheart]

One way or another, the SEC's 14th team will create a spot for ISU in the Big East.

1) they take Mizzou. We take Mizzou's spot.

2) They take VA Tech. ACC takes Rutgers/Cuse/UConn. Big East needs to fill that slot.

3) They take WVU. Big East needs to fill that slot.

This isn't even considering us bringing more to the table than KSU or the Big East going to 14/16.

I think this is right, there should be a spot in the BE if things blow up, not guaranteed by any means, but it is probably the BE would have a spot. Clearly a strong B12 is best case though.

We are selling ourselves short people, we bring a lot more than you think. Lot of people on this board have been beaten down by the local Iowa media for years, and understandably think ISU brings nothing. IF you repeat a lie long enough the perception is there that it could be true. Don't let the DM Register and local radio jocks get to you. We should be all right.

 

[cyman05]

Update on # of views for the record...

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[CrossCyed]

I think this is right, there should be a spot in the BE if things blow up, not guaranteed by any means, but it is probably the BE would have a spot. Clearly a strong B12 is best case though.

We are selling ourselves short people, we bring a lot more than you think. Lot of people on this board have been beaten down by the local Iowa media for years, and understandably think ISU brings nothing. IF you repeat a lie long enough the perception is there that it could be true. Don't let the DM Register and local radio jocks get to you. We should be all right.

Iowa State is among one of the less attractive BCS schools. Anyone who doesn't acknowledge that is kidding themselves. Not because of the school, but because of location, television, and football.

 

[Rogue52]

And this is what stinks about the current state of college sports. Boise can go undefeated for 5 years straight and probably still never get a shot at the national championship nor get into a major conference because they can't. Yet Washington State could go winless for 5 years straight, draw crowds of 10k per game (not all that far from it now) and feel secure in the PAC16.

Boise State could help their cause by no longer allowing partial qualifiers and using all their BCS money to boost other athletics.

 

[Al_4_State]

Iowa State is among one of the less attractive BCS schools. Anyone who doesn't acknowledge that is kidding themselves. Not because of the school, but because of location, television, and football.

But that doesn't mean we deserve to be left out of the BCS either. Our attendance, facilities, and overall success in revenue sports (remember, we have more revenue sport conference titles than A&M, KSU, OSU, TTU, Baylor, and Mizzou) makes us worthy, regardless of public perception.

 

[Rogue52]

It also wouldn't be possible. We're worried the Fox contract can be voided if we only have 9 schools. No way five could keep it with the best part of the TV inventory gone.

No one knows what stipulations are in the ESPN/ABC and Fox contracts. I assume you are correct, but I haven't seen any of it in writing.

What I do know is if this thing blows up, get ready for massive litigation.