*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

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As a moderator, you should learn to express your opinions as opinions, not as facts. You believe OU and OSU are on their way out, and you very well could be right, but you're only guessing based on the evidence you see.

I just assumed everyone reading this thread knows that EVERYTHING is opinion. No one posting on this message board has any idea of what WILL happen, so everything is a guess.
 

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In my gut, I believe the Pac 12 wants to get to 16 at the Big 12's expense, but only if they believe that is the ultimate result for ALL conferences in college football. Because of their geographic location, the Big 12 is the ONLY reasonable source of teams to fill out their card. Financially and logistically they are probably better off at 12, but have to be out front due to the Pacific Ocean limiting their options for expansion. If there is a sniff that there is a broader realignment coming, Larry Scott turns it up to eleventy out of necessity.

I think OU and UT have some great reasons to stay, but have discounted them completely. There is really no reason, including money, for them to be participating in this charade. It is very odd. The inner workings of OU administration in this process is going to draw a lot of scrutiny from investigators once "higher investigative powers" get involved, be they Congressmen or litigious attorneys working on behalf of the schools that get screwed.

ACC aggressively advocating Pitt and Cuse jumping is very significant, but I can't quite put my finger on it. It's like this stuff has all been figured out in advance and is slowly being revealed. Maybe it has?

If so, who is the "guiding hand" orchestrating these things? ESPN? They are the common party in all these events. Certainly not the NCAA. No individual party, even gargantuan Texas, has the ability to move anyone more than themselves or one traveling partner at most...

It bears watching closely.
Co ngress should make a rule they have to take New Mexico and NMS and then old Mexico before they get Texas or Oklahoma.:rolleyes:
 

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Yeah, I just don't get it. Stanford and Berkeley can't possibly be cool with that.

What premiere academic institutions wouldn't want to be associated with universities like Okie State and Texas Tech where their most notable majors are in their College of Finger Painting? It just makes too much sense. :confused:
 

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As a moderator, you should learn to express your opinions as opinions, not as facts. You believe OU and OSU are on their way out, and you very well could be right, but you're only guessing based on the evidence you see.

The Regents meeting today is to simply approve authorization for the Boren to make all decisions regarding OU's conference realignment. I'm guessing it's really nothing more that than - just a formality that is required to take place. I'm also guessing that the purpose of Wednesday's meeting is to set aside a time for a detailed discussion between Boren and the Regents, at least that's what I'm hoping for.

Wednesday's meeting is for OSU not OU.
 

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Wednesday's meeting is for OSU not OU.

This is exactly the procedure used by aTm on their way out the door.

1.Decide where you want to go.
2. Negotiate and make arrangements to do so.
3. Have the BoR give school President the authority to make the move.
4.School Pres applies for new conference
5. Conference accepts.
6. Ken Starr goes honey badger with his legal team because honey badger don't care.
 

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I have no idea how their TV contract is written. It is entirely possible they will be able to demand a review of their deal if conference arrangements change significantly.

IF OU and UT leave the Big 12, or the Big East collapses in on itself, you can bet your *** TV execs are going to want to re-do the TV deals. So they won't really be able to avoid the precedent for re-doing a deal in the ACC's favor.
Who is the Baylor in the remnants of the Big East?
 

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True, but the Big East's contract is up for renewal before the Big 12's is.
That is why they needed to skidaddle before 1 Nov deadline. Maybe Pitt found out the B12 was going to move too slow so they jumped for the sure thing. In any case, they may have saived some ESPN money by dissolving the Big East.
 

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Boomer, what does OU gain in the Pac?

Recruiting? You already pull top 5 recruiting classes with your Texas base.

Money? Big 12 contracts will be huge if you stay. You're already loaded.

Power? You'll lose some of your power.

Getting away from Texas? There's a solid chance they would follow.

Making Texas an equal? You can do that here.

I can't see a rational/logical reason for the move. I'm not saying this because I'm worried about ISU (I'm not at all), but I just don't see any logic.
 

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OU/OSU aren't bluffing. Larry Scott wants the OU brand badly for football, yes we arent a big market but we are the bluest of blue bloods in the sport.

This WILL work out for ISU. The only one who should be nervous is Baylor. Your AAU status is huge


Except for the fact that this is showing academics don't mean squat. OU bringing OSU to the PAC means OU is no longer an academic institution.

And you are such an attention ***** it's not funny.
 

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This is exactly the procedure used by aTm on their way out the door.

1.Decide where you want to go.
2. Negotiate and make arrangements to do so.
3. Have the BoR give school President the authority to make the move.
4.School Pres applies for new conference
5. Conference accepts.
6. Ken Starr goes honey badger with his legal team because honey badger don't care.

This stuff is just all too funny in the most hypocritical of ways. Texas, OU, A&M, and Nebraska block the vote on equal revenue sharing back when the Big XII was formed and in large part due to their efforts to get a bigger slice of the pie then everyone else. This led to the majority of the instability within the conference and now guess who the ******** are that are now all bailing and blowing this sucker up.... the same 4 that created the problem to begin with. All of the other schools in the Big XII got screwed from the word go and now the same schools are going to get screwed again. I hope the remaining Big XII schools sue the holy hell out of everyone that is leaving now. In fact.... I hope Fox sues as well. They lose out on the Big XII product that they were promised in a 1.17 billion dollar tv contract. How much money was Fox going to make on that deal and now it looks like it isn't going to happen. Time to start getting the lawsuits in order and ready to be filed.
 
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OU BOR meeting dont think it'll get to the issue till maybe 3 or 3:30
I bet they go to a private session to do this anyways.

My question to you Boomer is what do you think about conference realignment? From all the unnamed sources, it sounds like OU will likely make the same or less money in the PAC whatever, see a dramatic increase in travel costs for athletics, really put a lot more pressure on the student athlete in the classroom(as in they will never be there during the season), and make travel a nightmare for fans, have a harder road to the NC game, with a possibility of losing ground in Texas in recruiting. That is a lot of negatives.
 
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