*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****
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It might be this thread. I seem to forget more and more stuff after I get off it. It kind of sucks the brain cells right out of you. If I keep losing them at this torrid pace, I will have to switch over to the HN board in a month to still feel intelligent.
Kind of like Oklahoma going to PAC??. So they can feel smarter.
Beebe opens his mouth again:
Beebe Statement Regarding Oklahoma, Texas - Big 12 Conference - Official Athletic Site
Beebe Statement Regarding Oklahoma, Texas - Big 12 Conference - Official Athletic Site
I think they see that there is a possibility that UT could get accepted into PAC with right amount of votes and TTU could come up short. They wouldn't want UT to waltz right out of town in that scenario.
But it might work out better for all involved.
If there was another man in charge of the Big XII, I'd have more faith that it could actually be saved.
so what we know and I assume:
-UT and OU both say Big 12 is still on the table
-Both presidents get to make decisions on Realignment
-OU's Boren is a little upset others are threatening suit if OU leave's and tried to say that is no way to keep a conference together? Really??
-Texas claims staying in the big 12 is their preferred option (assume they don't want to give up $$$ and power)
-Texas has yet to give in to whatever OU's demands may be and no announcement has been made.
Assumptions and Conclusions: Texas and OU are still in the pissin match of all pissin matches. OU thinks they won because the ACC said no, the Pac 12 said you can have it your way only if its 100% equal and Texas has too big an ego to give in.
OU appears to want to go west regardless, either its still part of the pissin match or that is where their head is.
Texas could stay and prop up the big 12, but does anyone want them to? I get that you don't cut off your nose to spite your face, but seriously, how much money is it worth to be their complete *****, if we think it has been bad the last 15 years, what does it look like with them being the only power?
Rebecacy still has a shot to be right, but Boren looks like anything but OUR or anyones best friend (except maybe OSU).
Big 12/Big East Merger seems most likely, massive litigation from the likes of Ken Starr and depending on the result - it might be our best chance to be in one of the 4 superconferences in the future. If it becomes clear litigation could be costly to the networks or conferences, making 4 18 team conferences could be the settlement. Sue baby sue, its probably our best shot for short term BCS affiliation (BE-B12 Merger) and long term at the big boy table. Litigation costs money, lots of money - how we finance that will be key to the viability of same. the idea that Baylor saves ISU and others in the end, never would have thought that - but I believe it will be the end game after several more months and possibly years of uncertainty...
-UT and OU both say Big 12 is still on the table
-Both presidents get to make decisions on Realignment
-OU's Boren is a little upset others are threatening suit if OU leave's and tried to say that is no way to keep a conference together? Really??
-Texas claims staying in the big 12 is their preferred option (assume they don't want to give up $$$ and power)
-Texas has yet to give in to whatever OU's demands may be and no announcement has been made.
Assumptions and Conclusions: Texas and OU are still in the pissin match of all pissin matches. OU thinks they won because the ACC said no, the Pac 12 said you can have it your way only if its 100% equal and Texas has too big an ego to give in.
OU appears to want to go west regardless, either its still part of the pissin match or that is where their head is.
Texas could stay and prop up the big 12, but does anyone want them to? I get that you don't cut off your nose to spite your face, but seriously, how much money is it worth to be their complete *****, if we think it has been bad the last 15 years, what does it look like with them being the only power?
Rebecacy still has a shot to be right, but Boren looks like anything but OUR or anyones best friend (except maybe OSU).
Big 12/Big East Merger seems most likely, massive litigation from the likes of Ken Starr and depending on the result - it might be our best chance to be in one of the 4 superconferences in the future. If it becomes clear litigation could be costly to the networks or conferences, making 4 18 team conferences could be the settlement. Sue baby sue, its probably our best shot for short term BCS affiliation (BE-B12 Merger) and long term at the big boy table. Litigation costs money, lots of money - how we finance that will be key to the viability of same. the idea that Baylor saves ISU and others in the end, never would have thought that - but I believe it will be the end game after several more months and possibly years of uncertainty...
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RT @AP_JeffLatzke: #OU president says he's only focused on #Pac12 or trying to save #Big12 with equal revenue sharing. #hookem #Sooners
Maybe its wishful thinking, but, this sounds true.
RT @AP_JeffLatzke: #OU president says he's only focused on #Pac12 or trying to save #Big12 with equal revenue sharing. #hookem #Sooners
Maybe its wishful thinking, but, this sounds true.
ESPN sucks. National Enquirer for sports.
I'm pretty sure this is their lead editor:
Yep...I think its extremely likely that schools decide stuff in the next few weeks, but things won't ultimately be decided for 1-2 years while the courts/congress get involved in this mess known as college athletics.
Well, sounds like if somehow the Big 12 survives that the last school is now on board with equal revenue sharing.
So Equal Revenue Sharing (on all tiers?) for the big 12 is the main sticking point between OU and Texas? OU says look if we go to the Pac 12 then thats what you'll have to do so why not stay here and do it? rebecacy back in action.
Pissin match for the ages, problem I see is egos this big sometimes don't follow the original plan (if their was one). OU still seems content to split...
Please say how it's bad to be Texas's ***** vs the other alternatives. We need money. TX in our conference provides that. Plus if you have 9 other schools...TX has one voice. So they make an extra 15 mil a year...who cares? we don't compete (moneywise) with them and we NEVER will. Point is we get paid....and we do more with less (which is way more than a Bigeast/forgotten 5 merger) TX pipeline intact...etc
Everyone throws around terms like "texas greed" and "being their *****" but i'd like to see examples. Please read the numerous other posts about how the LHN is merely their 3rd tier rights...we have a deal for our 3rd tier rights. Are we greedy?
No, what he's saying is that OU is out for sure without equal revenue sharing. It's 50/50 if OU stays with equal revenue sharing.
I should be grateful, and I am - my point is if Nebbie, A&M and OU couldn't contain em, then what happens when the remnants and BE leftovers try to stack up? One voice of 1-0, Please, - they will play the free agency card all day long. Texas with 9 lesser powers may be our best option, but it still sucks.
If Texas goes to the Pac, they're going to be under equal revenue sharing. Might as well allow it in the Big 12.
They cannot avoid equal revenue sharing unless they go Independent. Period. Accept it here, or accept it there, but it really makes little sense for Texas to leave the Big 12 because they don't want to share revenue only to jump to the Pac and share revenue.
They cannot avoid equal revenue sharing unless they go Independent. Period. Accept it here, or accept it there, but it really makes little sense for Texas to leave the Big 12 because they don't want to share revenue only to jump to the Pac and share revenue.
No reason to mention it if it wasn't still a point of contention though between Texas and OU. So apparently they have yet to agree on that despite the reported concessions that texas offered.
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