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Clonehomer

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or having 10 people live in a house built for 4? Brilliant.
10 would be one thing. Making it technically illegal for 4 to live in a house built for at least that many (3br, 3ba home) is something completely different. We had 4 people in ours (technically against ordinance) because we used the office downstairs as a bedroom. We had a TON of space in that house (over 2k sq ft finished, plus a large unfinished area in the basement) so its not like we were packing in a bunch there.

Many times it isn't the house that's an issue, but rather stuff like parking. We had a couple houses with students in our neighborhood. Most were great, but one decided to use their garage as a den/storage so they had five cars parked out front. Also threw parties where their guests would leave beer cans in peoples yards as they walked by. Needless to say that the housing department had more than one inspection there.
 

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For those who have not lived here both as a student and an older adult over 30, you really are only getting the perspective of just a student.

I felt the same way when I was a student here but as an older adult living in Ames, I do not get the feeling Ames residents despise the students. As I look back at my college years, the times I felt the Ames residence were ******** was when I or the group I was with were doing something stupid we should not have been doing.

Exactly. Ames only hates the students when they are acting entitled, destructive, or disrespectful to others. They hate the same thing in other adults, as well.

These pretty much sum things up, who isn't going to be ****** with students destroying property, being loud at all times of the night, etc. Now this isn't the whole student population, but some definitely do these things. Ames is a nice community and has many more amenities than other towns of comparable population, I honestly would like to live in place like Ames.
 

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Many times it isn't the house that's an issue, but rather stuff like parking. We had a couple houses with students in our neighborhood. Most were great, but one decided to use their garage as a den/storage so they had five cars parked out front. Also threw parties where their guests would leave beer cans in peoples yards as they walked by. Needless to say that the housing department had more than one inspection there.
Yeah, a lot of that just comes down to 'dont be an *** to your neighbors'. I just think a less restrictive ordinance mightve gone a long way, and it being as restrictive as it was gave a lot of fuel to the 'the city hates its students' fire. I dont think 4 people in a house is unreasonable, when there are probably many families with that many. They couldve set the limit at 4-5 and still accomplished the overall goal.
 

cyclone87

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The metro population is 89,542 for the 2010 census. 59,000 is just for the city. Once a city passes 50k, it and the surrounding area (usually that county) is designated a "metropolitan area" by the government. We became that in 2000.

Yep, this is correct, the city is actually 59,000 now, Ames has really been growing (regardless if some of the students were included, I'm sure the fraction of students that actually filled out the census and claimed Ames was relatively small)
 

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Yep, this is correct, the city is actually 59,000 now, Ames has really been growing (regardless if some of the students were included, I'm sure the fraction of students that actually filled out the census and claimed Ames was relatively small)

Yep, i figure Ames has about 75k when the students are in session, about 50-55k during the summer\breaks
 

Clonehomer

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Many times it isn't the house that's an issue, but rather stuff like parking. We had a couple houses with students in our neighborhood. Most were great, but one decided to use their garage as a den/storage so they had five cars parked out front. Also threw parties where their guests would leave beer cans in peoples yards as they walked by. Needless to say that the housing department had more than one inspection there.
Yeah, a lot of that just comes down to 'dont be an *** to your neighbors'. I just think a less restrictive ordinance mightve gone a long way, and it being as restrictive as it was gave a lot of fuel to the 'the city hates its students' fire. I dont think 4 people in a house is unreasonable, when there are probably many families with that many. They couldve set the limit at 4-5 and still accomplished the overall goal.

But the city doesn't enforce it unless there is a complaint. Basically it is a way for the city to remove or fine houses that are being bad neighbors. If you're being good neighbors no one is going to report it.
 

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I bought a house near towers just so I could be close to the campus/campus life. I for one love the students and hate Ames in the summer months when it goes "dead". Although I can get a drink at the bar a lot easier.
 

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10 would be one thing. Making it technically illegal for 4 to live in a house built for at least that many (3br, 3ba home) is something completely different. We had 4 people in ours (technically against ordinance) because we used the office downstairs as a bedroom. We had a TON of space in that house (over 2k sq ft finished, plus a large 400 sq ft unfinished area in the basement we used for storage and drinking games) so its not like we were packing in a bunch there, but yet the city made it illegal.

I believe the Ames City Code states no more than three unrelated persons shall obtain residence in a single family dwelling. This is common in college towns and large cities and is because it goes against the City's definition of a "family." It also quells the risk for large parties, noise and garbage distribution.

In some cities, it's even known as the "Brothel Law."
 

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You might want to chill.

Do you remember receiving census form in the mail? Individuals claim their city of residence on those forms. College students could still claim their hometown as their city of residence if the chose to. No city can just start "including students" (or anyone) to their official population numbers.

I'm plenty chill, but thanks for your concern. I was responding to the posts saying the city takes advantage of the students when it is in their (the city's) own best interests. Obviously the city doesn't come up with the census number. To say Ames wouldn't exist without ISU is true to an extent, but it is the same with any other similar city centered around a university. And if ISU wasn't in Ames, it would be in another city, and the discussion would be the same.

FYI, the city council has a student ex-oficio member that serves as a liason between the student body and the city. And the city has gone out of its' way in recent years to include student input on major happenings.

That doesn't sound to me like a city that hates students.
 

cyclone87

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Ames has some great dining options. I agree the shopping isn't great, but there is some GREAT unique food in Ames and it's all affordable.

Totally agree there are some great local restaurants in Ames, sure there aren't a ton of chain-restaurants but for me there are enough. With continued growth Ames will probably be in line for more chain restaurants and big-box retailers in the future (just look at the past year BWW, Noodles, and soon Texas Roadhouse have come to Ames).
 

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Some of you are pretty ignorant. Every college town in America includes students as part of its' population. And just about every college town that isn't already a major metropolitan area wouldn't exist without its' college, or be as big (wow, that's a huge revelation). I'd estimate that about half of total students actually live in Ames year round.

And it's also a load of crap about the city not liking students. Do you think that because they don't appreciate riots, or having 10 people live in a house built for 4? Brilliant.


I can't imagine this happens in Morgantown, WV (pop. 29660) with WVU (enrollment 29306) which would only leave 354 people in the town that don't go to school there.
 

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FYI the three unrelated people provision is pretty standard zoning and a lot of places have it. 4 college kids in a house generally looks a lot different than parents with a couple of kids. Its definitely not an Ames, or even a college town thing.
 

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Lived in Ames since 1994 as a student and now a "townie." Never had a problem with students. If anything, my worst neighbors when I lived in apartments always seemed to have moved in from Boone. Just coincidence I'm sure.....
 

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I can't imagine Ames having a population of over 55,000, without students, and only having one high school.
 

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I can't imagine Ames having a population of over 55,000, without students, and only having one high school.

West Des Moines has a similar non-student population and only one high school.
 

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I hate the long waits and increased traffic that students bring. As well as the increased number of people who don't know how to drive. Thats the only part about the students that I don't like.

Wow, you must've never left the state of Iowa if you would consider any drive in Ames to be long or traffic to be bad.
 

ISUKyro

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Wow, you must've never left the state of Iowa if you would consider any drive in Ames to be long or traffic to be bad.
LOL - agree. Was about to post the same thing. The first time I drove back to Iowa after living in Houston for about 5 years I was wondering why everyone was being so nice on the roads...... then it hit me that I had just got used to H-Town traffic and I can now say that Ames has none of that. Hell even the time it takes to clear out Jack Trice after a game isn't even that bad compared to a wreck on the beltway down here.