Re: brokenloginagain -- "Texas has beat a top50 RPI team. we haven't.
True, but the record "vs. RPI" tends to trump RPI itself. More accurately, winning percentage vs. RPI top 25/50/100.
It seems to make little sense — and if tournament field were announced today, would be a disadvantage for ISU — but it's actually a more accurate way to assess resumes, when there's not enough direct comparison.
* A team could have comparative advantage by extension of its opponents' performance, but have a less-tangible performance in head-to-head competition against quality opponents. This is partly why (at this point) Iowa State is getting a decent RPI and bubble consideration. Most of the losses came against high RPI teams. But you can't expect to feed off that exclusively.
* Suppose you were comparing teams with no common opponents, with extreme variance in SOS (that is, the opportunity to notch quality wins; and risk of bad losses was much less likely). Suppose it's ISU and Northern Arizona. ISU plays 12 games vs. RPI top 100, and goes 4-8. NAU plays five, and goes 1-4. What if NAU's one win was vs. top 25, and Iowa State went 1-6?
If those examples seem to "tilt" against Iowa State in the current situation, you could flip the examples upside down. But think about it this way: You could probably make a case to send 9 teams from the Big East or 8 from Big Ten if the tournament field were announced today, simply because those were seen as the "premiere" powers this season.
We ARE a top 50 RPI team. they aren't.
True, but the record "vs. RPI" tends to trump RPI itself. More accurately, winning percentage vs. RPI top 25/50/100.
It seems to make little sense — and if tournament field were announced today, would be a disadvantage for ISU — but it's actually a more accurate way to assess resumes, when there's not enough direct comparison.
* A team could have comparative advantage by extension of its opponents' performance, but have a less-tangible performance in head-to-head competition against quality opponents. This is partly why (at this point) Iowa State is getting a decent RPI and bubble consideration. Most of the losses came against high RPI teams. But you can't expect to feed off that exclusively.
* Suppose you were comparing teams with no common opponents, with extreme variance in SOS (that is, the opportunity to notch quality wins; and risk of bad losses was much less likely). Suppose it's ISU and Northern Arizona. ISU plays 12 games vs. RPI top 100, and goes 4-8. NAU plays five, and goes 1-4. What if NAU's one win was vs. top 25, and Iowa State went 1-6?
If those examples seem to "tilt" against Iowa State in the current situation, you could flip the examples upside down. But think about it this way: You could probably make a case to send 9 teams from the Big East or 8 from Big Ten if the tournament field were announced today, simply because those were seen as the "premiere" powers this season.