CF Exclusive Conversation: With Royce White

[bostrem00]

Re: Why Royce White is a 2nd Rounder

Cool story bro!

 

[nhclone]

Re: Why Royce White is a 2nd Rounder

Not sure why you feel the need to keep posting this. It was just as foolish the first time as it is this time.

 

[3TrueFans]

Re: Why Royce White is a 2nd Rounder

ITT we ignore everything Royce does on the court and instead nit pick at one answer to one question.

 

[tzjung]

Re: Why Royce White is a 2nd Rounder

:err::goofy::wacko:

 

[Palmer]

Re: Why Royce White is a 2nd Rounder

If this gets out to the GMS around the league, Royce will drop to 2nd round, and here's why. There is one quote (from the CF exclusive) that moved him from a potential lottery pick in my mind to a lock for the 2nd round.

"As far as basketball goes, I am not looking forward to it because I am insecure about you know, where I am but that is just the reality of it. But I have courage and whatever happens in that realm is not what’s most important."

Royce, you should have never said that stuff. This is like a job interview.

Employer: So, tell why you think you would be successful within our company?
Royce: Well my track record speaks for itself but I'm not really sure how I will fit in with your company. I am really not looking forward to a transition of this magnitude, I am not sure I am ready.

Employer: Okay. How important is success to you?
Royce: Well I have the courage to succeed, but success within your company is ultimately not the most important thing in life. Although I do want to succeed, you have to understand that I have goals outside of this company.

Employer: Alright Royce. We will likely be headed other directions with this position but we thank you for your time and we really appreciate your honesty.

My point is no matter how deep you feel about things, this is a spot where you must sell yourself and check your tongue. Say things you may not always believe. Tell them what they want to hear. Who will give someone guaranteed money, when that person isn't sure if they will succeed, and that person doesn't ultimately care if they succeed. That is the worst combination for a potential job candidate.

He is just being humble.....people with his skill set doesn't need to pimp himself.

 

[Wesley]

As much as Royce loves ISU he knows that it is time to go. Fred knew it as well. Royce is 21 and just had a great stint in the NCAA's and flashed his tremendous potential after a great season. Staying one more year was not going to move Royce up a whole lot in the eyes of the NBA. Time to strike while the iron is hot. Royce will be drafted in the NBA first round and get guaranteed money. Fred knows this from his contacts in the NBA.

IMO, it is refreshing to see people like Royce and Fred have such a great relationship that they can be honest and open about the future and what should be done in consideration of the best interests of the player. Royce will be a great ambassador in the NBA for ISU. And the resulting positive publicity will be a benefit to ISU and our program.

The Royce White Story and the resurrection of a career and future basketball career is quite remarkable. Our basketball program is in great hands with the Mayor.

As an aside, the documentary on following his life that he just inked with the agent should be fairly interesting also.

 

[DesertClone1]

would you rather he come out and say... "hell yeah i'm the best player in the nation... teams should be lining up to take me"

 

[Bardman]

Sorry to opine on the subject. I think when millions are on the line it is fine to "nitpick" and carefully consider where a person's mind is at. This just throws question marks all around for me. I like Royce as much as the next guy and was totally pumped when he declared. I think it was the smart choice. If he keeps interviewing like that though, he will not get guaranteed money. He has a great attitude about life and basketball but that comment was a bit troubling to me is all.

 

[Dryburn]

Re: Why Royce White is a 2nd Rounder

If this gets out to the GMS around the league, Royce will drop to 2nd round, and here's why. There is one quote (from the CF exclusive) that moved him from a potential lottery pick in my mind to a lock for the 2nd round.

"As far as basketball goes, I am not looking forward to it because I am insecure about you know, where I am but that is just the reality of it. But I have courage and whatever happens in that realm is not what’s most important."

Royce, you should have never said that stuff. This is like a job interview.

Employer: So, tell why you think you would be successful within our company?
Royce: Well my track record speaks for itself but I'm not really sure how I will fit in with your company. I am really not looking forward to a transition of this magnitude, I am not sure I am ready.

Employer: Okay. How important is success to you?
Royce: Well I have the courage to succeed, but success within your company is ultimately not the most important thing in life. Although I do want to succeed, you have to understand that I have goals outside of this company.

Employer: Alright Royce. We will likely be headed other directions with this position but we thank you for your time and we really appreciate your honesty.

My point is no matter how deep you feel about things, this is a spot where you must sell yourself and check your tongue. Say things you may not always believe. Tell them what they want to hear. Who will give someone guaranteed money, when that person isn't sure if they will succeed, and that person doesn't ultimately care if they succeed. That is the worst combination for a potential job candidate.

This was the first the guy actually played competitive college basketball, and now suddenly, he is jumping to the NBA. IMO, Royce got better and certainly more confident as the season went along. He finished with great games against some lottery picks. I think all he is saying here is that this is all happening really fast, and his confidence is not quite there yet. As a person with an anxiety disorder, I would guess, right now, he is not looking forward to the next level. I think once he trains for it, goes through the various skills testing and other testing that the NBA does, he will start to realize that he does indeed fit and his confidence will grow. If a GM cannot understand where this kid has been and how far he has come in a short time......well, that is their loss.

 

[Wesley]

Re: Why Royce White is a 2nd Rounder

If this gets out to the GMS around the league, Royce will drop to 2nd round, and here's why. There is one quote (from the CF exclusive) that moved him from a potential lottery pick in my mind to a lock for the 2nd round.

"As far as basketball goes, I am not looking forward to it because I am insecure about you know, where I am but that is just the reality of it. But I have courage and whatever happens in that realm is not what’s most important."

Royce, you should have never said that stuff. This is like a job interview.

Employer: So, tell why you think you would be successful within our company?
Royce: Well my track record speaks for itself but I'm not really sure how I will fit in with your company. I am really not looking forward to a transition of this magnitude, I am not sure I am ready.

Employer: Okay. How important is success to you?
Royce: Well I have the courage to succeed, but success within your company is ultimately not the most important thing in life. Although I do want to succeed, you have to understand that I have goals outside of this company.

Employer: Alright Royce. We will likely be headed other directions with this position but we thank you for your time and we really appreciate your honesty.

My point is no matter how deep you feel about things, this is a spot where you must sell yourself and check your tongue. Say things you may not always believe. Tell them what they want to hear. Who will give someone guaranteed money, when that person isn't sure if they will succeed, and that person doesn't ultimately care if they succeed. That is the worst combination for a potential job candidate.

You may be naive not to think that all college players are hesitant to take the stage to showcase their talents. What Royce said is probably typical to what players really feel. Refreshingly, Royce just happens to be more honest than the the other "I am great and super" potential players. I just feel the GMs will understand that.

 

[Bardman]

Re: Why Royce White is a 2nd Rounder

This was the first the guy actually played competitive college basketball, and now suddenly, he is jumping to the NBA. IMO, Royce got better and certainly more confident as the season went along. He finished with great games against some lottery picks. I think all he is saying here is that this is all happening really fast, and his confidence is not quite there yet. As a person with an anxiety disorder, I would guess, right now, he is not looking forward to the next level. I think once he trains for it, goes through the various skills testing and other testing that the NBA does, he will start to realize that he does indeed fit and his confidence will grow. If a GM cannot understand where this kid has been and how far he has come in a short time......well, that is their loss.

Anxiety is such a rare thing in the NBA. I don't expect GMS to understand it, so it is Royce's job to ensure them and make them feel comfortable with it. He has to learn to spin his answers to make the GMS and scouts feel more comfortable with it.

 

[Doc]

Re: Why Royce White is a 2nd Rounder

Anxiety is such a rare thing in the NBA. I don't expect GMS to understand it, so it is Royce's job to ensure them and make them feel comfortable with it. He has to learn to spin his answers to make the GMS and scouts feel more comfortable with it.

I agree with you and think it probably would've have been better for Royce not to say that, even though it was an honest statement. These GMs and scouts typically get to draft two players, one of who may make the team, and whether they keep their jobs can partially depend on their success in the draft.
We all want to avert risk as much as possible, and Royce is sounding, I repeat, sounding, like a high-risk player with statements like these.

 

[Bardman]

Re: Why Royce White is a 2nd Rounder

I agree with you and think it probably would've have been better for Royce not to say that, even though it was an honest statement. These GMs and scouts typically get to draft two players, one of who may make the team, and whether they keep their jobs can partially depend on their success in the draft.
We all want to avert risk as much as possible, and Royce is sounding, I repeat, sounding, like a high-risk player with statements like these.

This. I wasn't trying to bash anyone just thinking like a rational GM. 2nd round is worth the risk, first round probably not. And if he does drop to the 2nd round he will be one of the first 5 off of the board because he has gobs of talent and versatility. Couple anxiety with all other issues you want and it would just make me a bit hesitant to write that check. Especially when guys like Kevin Jones are at the end of the first and you know exactly what you are getting.

 

[Spam]

It's not like his anxiety will magically get better by staying at ISU one more year. He's dealt with it since he was a kid. So he may well drop down a notch because of the anxiety issue. But the same would happen next year.

 

[VeloClone]

It's not like his anxiety will magically get better by staying at ISU one more year. He's dealt with it since he was a kid. So he may well drop down a notch because of the anxiety issue. But the same would happen next year.

You definitely ovine windmilled this one. You are seriously underestimating the psychological calming effects of CFH's dreaminess.

 

[Dryburn]

Re: Why Royce White is a 2nd Rounder

Anxiety is such a rare thing in the NBA. I don't expect GMS to understand it, so it is Royce's job to ensure them and make them feel comfortable with it. He has to learn to spin his answers to make the GMS and scouts feel more comfortable with it.

What are you basing the "rare thing" comment on? A little under 20 percent of American Adults have some form of anxiety disorder, so I am pretty sure some of them are NBA players.

You are advising Royce to "spin" his answers? Yeah....that seems like a good idea. Don't be honest with the people who may want to draft you and pay you millions. Just let them find out later when the problem comes up.

I'm sure Royce will be very straight-forward and honest in his interviews, and I am pretty confident that he will be able to alleviate most of their concerns.

Idiocy.

 

[Doc]

Re: Why Royce White is a 2nd Rounder

What are you basing the "rare thing" comment on? A little under 20 percent of American Adults have some form of anxiety disorder, so I am pretty sure some of them are NBA players.

You are advising Royce to "spin" his answers? Yeah....that seems like a good idea. Don't be honest with the people who may want to draft you and pay you millions. Just let them find out later when the problem comes up.

I'm sure Royce will be very straight-forward and honest in his interviews, and I am pretty confident that he will be able to alleviate most of their concerns.

Idiocy.

It's not idiocy. Downgrading a player simply because of anxiety is ignorant, but downgrading a player who has anxiety and who also suggests that he doesn't love the game of basketball is reasonable. Simply downgrading a player for a mental illness (although there have been athletes who've missed significant time with mental illness) is ignorant, but if you take it in combination with statements from Royce himself, you have reason to downgrade him.

I personally wouldn't downgrade him, but I'm also more of a fan than a ruthless businessman when it comes to Royce.

 

[CyJack13]

Re: Why Royce White is a 2nd Rounder

If this gets out to the GMS around the league, Royce will drop to 2nd round, and here's why. There is one quote (from the CF exclusive) that moved him from a potential lottery pick in my mind to a lock for the 2nd round.

"As far as basketball goes, I am not looking forward to it because I am insecure about you know, where I am but that is just the reality of it. But I have courage and whatever happens in that realm is not what’s most important."


My point is no matter how deep you feel about things, this is a spot where you must sell yourself and check your tongue. Say things you may not always believe. Tell them what they want to hear. Who will give someone guaranteed money, when that person isn't sure if they will succeed, and that person doesn't ultimately care if they succeed. That is the worst combination for a potential job candidate.

Yeah I thought the same thing. He's basically implying he just wants the cash to do other things. That would give me some pause if I were a GM.