The one and done rule?
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Once again the NCAA finds a way to screw things up. I dont see NCAA hanging around for long: football is huge joke, and if they don't fix basketball it will soon become the same.
I am sure Im not the only one who kinda felt cheated seeing a team full of NBA players-not really college students, win the tournament with ease.... Rules need to change.
I am sure Im not the only one who kinda felt cheated seeing a team full of NBA players-not really college students, win the tournament with ease.... Rules need to change.
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I get your frustration, but your blame in this case is misplaced. It's not an NCAA rule that caused what you saw last night. One and done is an NBA rule.
No it is their fault. They shove these "we are more than just dumb jock" commercials down your throat, but then right after that show an Anthony Davis interview (lol irony anybody). Kentucky made NCAA look like fools, one good thing about them winning.
I normally don't read Doyel, as I find him to be an insufferable, arrogant pr!ck, but I find it hard to really disagree with anything he wrote in that article. He brings up a great point about how schools like Duke and North Carolina don't get any of the criticism that Kentucky does for their own "one and dones".
I agree with you that the frustration lays with the NBA not the NCAA, but it is a tricky situation. We want to prevent these kids from having their hoop dreams crushed by forcing them to go to school and prove themselves on the court before entering the NBA draft. If they are good they will know and the NBA scouts will too, but if they are a bust, then we have them in school playing basketball and hopefully fulfill their college education.
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How is it their fault? It's not their rule. Should they deny entry to any player projected to be one and done? Assuming the NBA rule does not change, what should the NCAA do to fix this situation?
NPR had a story last week that showed how the 5-star recruits tend to cluster at a few schools. I suspect that the one-and-done rule has made this tendency stronger. It seems that the biggest reason Barnes went to UNC was because it gave him what he thought would be the best platform to present his brand to the NBA.
I suppose that it is not unlike how premier transfers tends to cluster at a few schools (cough, Iowa State). I'm just glad that we are the beneficiaries of one of these phenomenon for a change.
I dont think there should be any "rule". Go after high school. Go after 1 year. Go after 2 years. Go as soon as you are ready and a team is willing to draft you.
All the talk of rules is ridiculous imo. (I understand its a NBA rule)
All the talk of rules is ridiculous imo. (I understand its a NBA rule)
They should be required to stay in school. I think one important aspect about college is it makes you grow up to a certain extent. How many times do you hear of professional athletes who get out of their sport, and are completely broke because they don't know how to manage their finances, or they weren't wise enough and let the wrong people handle their money. I think it also hurts the college game when you have the pros cherry picking the best talent for themselves. And as mentioned before, how much money is wasted on one and dones?
As much as I think he was just saying to try and shut up his critics, I think Calipari really does have the right idea on how to approach "fixing" the one and done situation. You've got to monetize it for the players. Why would the player's association ever agree to additional arbitrary years in college requirement? To do a favor for the NCAA or protect owner's from "having" to take risks on immature kids? That's not going to happen. If you moved the draft declaration deadline back out and added in extra money for years spent in college or shortened rookie contract lengths for guys that spent more time in school, you'd at least make some guys slow down and think about it. The Anthony Davis types would still be gone after one-year (or maybe straight of high school again), but that next level down of players, you'd see a lot more stay.
I think the rule is fine, sure this years Kentucky team leaned on 3 frosh but had Jones and Lamb not opted to return last seasn they wouldn't have won the tourney. Look at the other teams in the final four heck even the elite 8, none relied on a 1 and done type player. It's not like every good team has one of these kids. The rule gets blown out of proportion when Kentucky does what it did this year but making kids at least give college a shot has made more of them into 2 or 3 year players and improved their game.
How does requiring 2 years change anything? All it does is put this year's Kentucky team in the finals next year :twitcy:
The idea is that Kentucky wouldn't have the scholarships available every single year to give out to the best high schoolers every year.
I think you could argue that this year is kind of a snapshot of what it could look like, since many players (Jones, Lamb, etc) didn't leave last year when they could have due to the NBA lock-out.
This is a little off topic, but does anyone understand how one and done players impact the rule that is biting UConn in the rear next year about progress towards graduation? Obviously they are not progressing towards graduation if they leave but they are also no longer on your roster.
I think it depends on how they finish. If they pass their Spring classes they don't hurt. If they stop going like a majority of players I think they count against a school.
If a player leaves school in good academic standing, it does not hurt your APR at all. As Calipari will tell anyone who listens, Kentucky has one of the higher APR's in the country.
Well yeah. But I was commenting on the 2 year rule. It doesn't seem as effective as a 3 year rule. :smile:
Thanks to you and Clonehomer. I'm guessing that makes it really easy for a school like Kentucky with a bunch of one and doners. They could take a bunch of easy general ed classes for credits that don't necessarily lead to a degree in a certain major but they are never going to have to worry about that. Their first year can just be "undeclared" major.
Easy:
1) The player could then choose to play pro overseas and get paid for a year before joining the pro ranks in the NBA.
2) If they really wanted the opportunity to paly for an NCAA title for one year before going pro, they could get loans to cover tuition, room and board, etc. These would be easily repaid with first round draft money.
