*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

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dtISU

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As much as I've enjoyed the round robin football and double round robin basketball season(s), the Big XII will not stay at 10. Before long we will be back to divisions and a FB championship game. Don't think this has been mentioned anywhere previously in this thread, so you heard it here first.
 

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Just wanted to give you guys an update.

I had to walk home last night (sort of hard to drive to work when your keys are locked in your apartment) and saw that mysterious car with WV license plates was at Waldorf again.

I was able to get a closer look, and there was a Waldorf soccer sticker on the vehicle. Also, the women's soccer team was practicing. So, I am now guessing that the vehicle was not Oliver Luck trying to recruit Waldorf to the Big XII.
 
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I don't know if anyone had mentioned it before, but I heard the new NCAA president Mark Emmert on the radio a few weeks ago and was shocked by his attitude. Apparently he had been a former president at one of the Pac 12 schools (Univ. of Washington I think) before taking his new gig as NCAA president last year. He said his proudest accomplishment was realignment and expanding to get Colorado and Utah. He then said that the Big 10 expansion to get Nebraska was great. Then in the next sentence started to lambast and criticize conference realignment and how it shouldn't happen anymore because people aren't doing it right (like how moral the Pac 10 was when they tried to destroy the Big 12). He is against expansion (now that his school got what they wanted) and mocked the idea that the new Big 12 contract would be enough money to cause additional realignment.

If the NCAA president had come out against realignment 2 years ago I would understand. But to have someone who benefited/caused realignment then criticize those trying to survive (Big 12) by futher expansion came across to me blatantly hypocritical. That interview made me really not like the guy.
 

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I don't know if anyone had mentioned it before, but I heard the new NCAA president Mark Emmert on the radio a few weeks ago and was shocked by his attitude. Apparently he had been a former president at one of the Pac 12 schools (Univ. of Washington I think) before taking his new gig as NCAA president last year. He said his proudest accomplishment was realignment and expanding to get Colorado and Utah. He then said that the Big 10 expansion to get Nebraska was great. Then in the next sentence started to lambast and criticize conference realignment and how it shouldn't happen anymore because people aren't doing it right (like how moral the Pac 10 was when they tried to destroy the Big 12). He is against expansion (now that his school got what they wanted) and mocked the idea that the new Big 12 contract would be enough money to cause additional realignment.

If the NCAA president had come out against realignment 2 years ago I would understand. But to have someone who benefited/caused realignment then criticize those trying to survive (Big 12) by futher expansion came across to me blatantly hypocritical. That interview made me really not like the guy.

He understands the Pac has NOWHERE to go if the Big 12 exists. That is why what is good for the Big 12 is "not good for college sports" (aka the PAC).

PAC is screwed by geography if the SEC, Big 12, BIG go to 16 teams. They'd have to look at the CSU's and NM's of the world.
 

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Independent status isn't BYU's long-term answer | Deseret News

Check out the comments on this similar story. Seems like BYU fans are very unified in admitting it was a mistake to go independent. Sounds like they think they should have stayed in MNT West and been proactive toward Big 12. Of course a year ago this wasn't the case, but now that the Big 12 is stable they all know it's a no brainer.

Interesting how some of them are even nervous about Utah State moving up to the new MWC/CUSA merger and continuing to improve while they play nobody every november. They can't even easily schedule those teams late in the year.

I was a big supporter of adding them the minute Colorado left and replacing Colorado/Neb with BYU and another team like Louisville...but with the WVU move and grumblings that ACC fb first schools are not thrilled it just doesn't make as much sense. Especially knowing Louisville is dying to join and a better fit.

BYU probably still would be better off in MWC/CUSA and only jumping if/when they get a real offer from the Big 12 or if the national Big East thing doesn't fail somehow. I think this Pac 12/Big Ten coalition makes Pac 12 expansion highly unlikely. Even if the B10, ACC, SEC and Big 12 all end up at 14 or 16 somehow, they'd do 12 and the Big Ten partnership before adding BYU/BSU.

A team in this MWC/CUSA can still be a BCS buster if they schedule a tough non-conf. Gonna be really hard for BYU, WAC, SunBelt or MAC teams to ever get there. Have to go undefeated and hope for very few 1 loss BCS conf teams.
 

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While it is impossible to say for sure, I personally think BYU's boat to the Big 12 has sailed off without them on board.

There's a lot to like about BYU, but there's also a lot not to like about BYU. Especially their absolute insistence on the unilateral right to game forfeiture.

I can actually live with the geography, but the geography is really not fair to WVU now that they are members. Had BYU joined first, different story.

Nope. I'm just not feeling BYU ever becoming a member of the Big 12.
 

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While it is impossible to say for sure, I personally think BYU's boat to the Big 12 has sailed off without them on board.

There's a lot to like about BYU, but there's also a lot not to like about BYU. Especially their absolute insistence on the unilateral right to game forfeiture.

I can actually live with the geography, but the geography is really not fair to WVU now that they are members. Had BYU joined first, different story.

Nope. I'm just not feeling BYU ever becoming a member of the Big 12.

What's this?
 

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If a game (say in a tourney) falls on Sunday they will forfeit no matter what anyone else wants.

Have they ever forfeited on this basis? I just don't think that is going to be an issue that can't easily be worked around, especially now that the basketball tournaments end on Saturday. SLC, a short drive from Provo (think Des Moines to Ames) is a direct flight from pretty much anywhere. That has to be a mitigating factor for distance. Until Southwest gets up and running in Des Moines, the travel time from Ames to Provo is probably shorter in total time including lay overs than the trips to Waco, Lubbock or Stillwater.
 
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