*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

[cykadelic2]

This is primarily because all of the "insiders" driving the conversation of B12 expansion originate primarily from WVU posters and WVU has a vendetta against Louisville.

It has little to do with "insiders". It has more to do with articles like this from the Sports Business Journal with the following quote:

"How a new media contract would affect the conference’s willingness to expand remains to be seen, but industry analysts said the Big 12 would be less likely to add more teams now that it has its primary revenue stream secured for the next 13 years."

ESPN, Fox may share Big 12 rights - SportsBusiness Daily | SportsBusiness Journal

 

[cyman05]

Nothing new, but interesting to hear Oliver Luck:

"There has been a lot of discussion about expansion," Luck stated. "I won't divulge the contents of those talks. But, I do think there is a high level of discussion amongst the various schools. There is discussion and we will see how it all plays out. I think there is a high level of interest in the part of the conference to look around and see what the other conferences are doing. It is easy to count the schools in the Pac-12 and the Big Ten, which is 12, and the SEC and ACC with 14. That is something that is front and center in the minds of Big 12 folks."
West Virginia's nearest Big 12 neighbor is Iowa State, which is more than 800 miles away. WVU would certainly be open to adding a school or two much closer to Morgantown.
"There are a lot of different objectives you want to accomplish if expansion is a way to go," Luck said. "Certainly from our perspective, one would be having a neighbor that is not as far away as our nearest Big 12 opponent right now. Having a more geographic neighbor is important and having the other nine schools in the Big 12 recognize that. They certainly realize the importance of having Oklahoma and Oklahoma State right next door. The two Kansas schools are in close proximity. I think that is something that would be on the table if we get to that point."
The Big 12 was previously viewed as unstable. Oklahoma and Texas were considering changing conferences. The Big 12 lost Missouri and Texas A&M to the SEC and promptly responded by adding TCU and West Virginia. The conference looked to become even more stable by dealing with its television rights.
"The discussions on the TV side are going toward the possibility of doing a 13-year granting of rights," Luck said. "They have done a six-year deal, so that would be adding seven more years to it. For those who don't understand what a granting of right is, it simply means that you are turning over your most valuable asset, your television rights, to the conference. That is the biggest way to assure security and stability."

http://www.wvillustrated.com/story/17294434/luck-discusses-big-12-transition

 

[isuno1fan]

It has little to do with "insiders". It has more to do with articles like this from the Sports Business Journal with the following quote:

"How a new media contract would affect the conference’s willingness to expand remains to be seen, but industry analysts said the Big 12 would be less likely to add more teams now that it has its primary revenue stream secured for the next 13 years."

ESPN, Fox may share Big 12 rights - SportsBusiness Daily | SportsBusiness Journal

That primary revenue stream goes up with expansion. The Big 12 is going to expand. That is a given. I believe Louisville will be a part of that expansion no matter what.

 

[cykadelic2]

That primary revenue stream goes up with expansion. The Big 12 is going to expand. That is a given. I believe Louisville will be a part of that expansion no matter what.

The B12 will only expand if it derives more significantly more value for existing schools. Louisville will only be part of it with Notre Dame or Florida State. Otherwise, it's not happening for Louisville.

 

[TuxedoYoda]

I don't see Louisville ever getting in the Big12. I am a firm believer in the FSU/Clemson to the Big12 rumors.

 

[isuno1fan]

I stand my ground.

Louisville will be in the Big 12 regardless.

Yes this is opinion and not fact so no need to get huffy.

 

[CascadeClone]

I want Notre Dame and BYU just so we'll have a battle royale of religions with TCU and Baylor.

The Christian Final Four, I love it.

But for religious diversity, could we add add the Maharishies too, guessing that is going to be a win for us in football most years. Alternately, how far is the University of Tel Aviv from West Virginia? Would that make for a natural rivalry?

 

[bosco]

I want Notre Dame and BYU just so we'll have a battle royale of religions with TCU and Baylor.

The Christian Final Four, I love it. But for religious diversity, could we add add the Maharishies too, guessing that is going to be a win for us in football most years. Alternately, how far is the University of Tel Aviv from West Virginia? Would that make for a natural rivalry?

They'll get the coveted Fairfield TV sets.

 

[fccy]

Once again yesterday, I saw a WVU car at Waldorf athletic facilities. Don't undervalue the Forest City Tv reach.

 

[Cyclonepride]

Scrolling to the last page of this thread on my phone gave me carpal tunnel

 

[Wesley]

TCU's move to Big 12 could help land Pitt's Jamie Dixon | Dallas-Fort Worth Sports News - Spo...

In the past, the idea of luring Dixon away from the tradition-rich Big East Conference to come coach his alma mater in Conference USA or the Mountain West was -- without question -- a long shot.
But how about now?
Several sources at TCU said the school's move to the Big 12 next season, coupled with athletic director Chris Del Conte's assurances that plans of a major renovation to the basketball facilities are in his sights, could be enough to get Dixon listening.

 

[Cyclonepride]

TCU's move to Big 12 could help land Pitt's Jamie Dixon | Dallas-Fort Worth Sports News - Spo...

Hard to imagine that move unless they just rolled in with a dump truck full of money.

 

[jsmith86]

This thing still isn't over 20,000 posts? weak sauce.

 

[tim_redd]

This thing still isn't over 20,000 posts? weak sauce.

It's like people aren't even trying anymore.

 

[longtimeclone]

It's like people aren't even trying anymore.

Probably just waiting for the summer to slow down more

 

[jdoggivjc]

This thread is petering out. Yep, I just said peter...

 

[Cyched]

C'mon people, only 140 posts to go!

WE BELIEVE

 

[CONEClone]

Now that Basketball is over, I foresee this thread being on the front page everyday once again.

 

[Wesley]

Yeah, we need to finish this thread up to 20k as soon as we can.

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebask...7549/some-questions-we-have-for-the-offseason

 

[BCClone]

Well I will take it to 136 to go just to get this to 20K so it can be sealed and put in its time capsule and buried. This seems to be the jist of this thread now.