Jerry Palm has us OUT

[gocubs2118]

For those people who think these bracket experts predict games:

always RT @AlexBerngard: Your brackets are done as if Selection Sunday were today, right?

https://twitter.com/jppalmCBS/status/303593278748639232

 

[Rural]

How many teams did Johnny have that finished the conference season with a winning record? Did those teams make the NCAAs?

If I remember correctly, I believe Johnny had a team make the NCAA event with a 6-10 conference record.

 

[MartyFine]

Personally... I get the feeling that Iowa State goes down to Waco and beats Baylor. When playing against Baylor you can typically count on 2 things... playing a team loaded with talent that lives to underachieve and playing a team that is so poorly coached they can't get out of their own way. While beating Baylor isn't going to be a monumental achievement by any stretch of the imagination I think ISU uses the win as a confidence builder and they finish stronger then most expect down the stretch. I think ISU ends up going 5-1 down the stretch with a loss at Oklahoma.

The problem: only one win ever in Waco, and that was the best ISU team ever that also happened to be wrapping up a conference title on the same night. I can't even remember the last time ISU played well down there?

 

[MartyFine]

If I remember correctly, I believe Johnny had a team make the NCAA event with a 6-10 conference record.

It was 5-9 regular season, although you may be counting a win in KC. Regardless, that team struggled a lot on the road (and even some days/nights at home).

 

[gocubs2118]

The problem: only one win ever in Waco, and that was the best ISU team ever that also happened to be wrapping up a conference title on the same night. I can't even remember the last time ISU played well down there?

That's fine but what does a team from 10 years ago have to do with this one?

 

[CycloneJoe]

Did he put that bracket out yesterday morning?

I think it has to be before the IOWA and MINNY game

 

[ISUChippewa]

Minnesota is 4th seed and Illinois is 7th seed. Minnesota and Illinois are 6-7 in Big10. Wow, I really don't agree with anything he says.

And this really says all that needs to be said about Jerry Palm. The guy is a total shill for the Big Ten (he had Northwestern projected to make the tournament for much of the season last year, and they ended up going to the NIT), but even within the context of being a Big Ten shill he is remarkably inconsistent. For me, it makes it hard to take him seriously.

 

[Rural]

It was 5-9 regular season, although you may be counting a win in KC. Regardless, that team struggled a lot on the road (and even some days/nights at home).

5-9. right.
seven teams x 2 games.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Jerry Palm will be on Miller & Brinson on KXNO today.

 

[VeloClone]

I think the team that laid that turd in Austin does not deserve a spot. Actually, I'd think that we all know how the season will end...lose to Baylor, OU, WV on the road. Beat TT, KU, OSU at home. Lose in the first game in KC despite having a ton of fans there. I'd actually be shocked at any other outcome. This team is just too weak mentally and defensively to win anywhere other than Hilton. Reminds me so much of Johnny's teams its crazy. Anyway, I don't think 10-8 in conference gets us in nor would we deserve it. And if it does, we're looking at the play-in game.

I would be even more shocked if it did end up like this.

 

[MartyFine]

That's fine but what does a team from 10 years ago have to do with this one?

I think it pretty clearly demonstrates that it takes a very good ISU team to win in Waco (also see last year).

 

[CycloneJames]

I think it pretty clearly demonstrates that it takes a very good ISU team to win in Waco (also see last year).

Results at Baylor since last win:
2011-2012: Loss (Baylor ranked #9, ISU finishes 23-11)
2009-2010: Loss (BU ranked #20, ISU finishes 15-17)
2007-2008: Loss (BU unranked, ISU finishes 14-18)
2005-2006: Loss (BU unranked, ISU finishes 16-14)
2003-2004: Loss (BU unranked, ISU finishes 17-12)
2001-2002: Loss (BU unranked, ISU finishes 12-19)

To say it takes a very good team to win at Baylor may be a bit of an over exaggeration. One good team has lost at Baylor since then, and that was last year to a pretty darn good Baylor team.

 

[Cyclonestate78]

The problem: only one win ever in Waco, and that was the best ISU team ever that also happened to be wrapping up a conference title on the same night. I can't even remember the last time ISU played well down there?

This isn't the same Baylor team from years past. They are pretty soft in the post with the graduation of their head thug in the paint Quincy Acy. He was an absolutely filthy player in the post roughing up players, shoving guys out of the way for rebounds, hacking anybody trying to drive to the basket, etc.... When he left, Baylor's toughness in the paint left with him. No doubt they have some talented young guys in the post but they aren't street fighters like Acy was. The paint is now open for business when playing Baylor and that has had a direct impact on Baylor's record this year.

 

[Bobby45]

Jerry Palm had ISU on the fence last year at this time because he said they didn't have a good road win.

Good Old Jerry Palm, he could use the same criteria that he used last year for this year....LOL

 

[jbhtexas]

Jerry Palm will be on Miller & Brinson on KXNO today.

Fickle and dopey...ouch!

 

[CycloneVet]

Is Jerry Palm on the selection committee?? No, then who gives a **** what he thinks?

 

[Cyclonestate78]

Is Jerry Palm on the selection committee?? No, then who gives a **** what he thinks?

Who deserves the higher seed... Wisconsin or Minnesota? Go....

 

[ribsnwhiskey]

Jerry Palm will be on Miller & Brinson on KXNO today.

Well, if their show wasn't "can't miss radio" before, I don't know what it is now!

 

[tee1up]

Woulda, coulda, shoulda, but didn't. That is the cold hard fact. ISU has beaten TCU on the road in conference, period. I don't think the committee gives a team much credit for losing a close game on the road. It is still a loss. Then when the team compounds the situation by losing to the likes of Tech, Texas and even Iowa on the road, matters look even worse. Yes, ISU played KU and OSU well on the road.......until they lost. If you think ISU should get credits for close losses on the road, then you must think they should also lose credit for close wins at home, as in the cases of WVU, Baylor and KSU.

The committee looks at road record.....wins and losses.....not close wins and close losses. Those types of things may come in when it comes to seeding.

The simple fact is that ISU has just not shown to be a good road team this year.......in conference or out of it. As ISU fans, that is frustrating, but it is not a misstatement.

This is it exactly. I heard an interview with the head of the selection committee the other day. He emphatically said they will look at road records. He embellished the point by saying the whole tournament is a road game, they want teams that win on the road. I disagree with him. I think close road losses to quality teams means something. But that is what he said. We have to beat a decent team on the road.

 

[nhclone]

2/3 of Cf has us out after every loss, I'm not too worried just because jerry uses his real name on internet posts instead of a screen name.