Tom Dienhart has Hoiberg as a possible replacement in Minnesota
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Why would Freddie go from Iowa State where he could have a tough season or two and we would still love him to Minnesota where good coaches go to see their careers die? The only way I see Fred leaving Iowa State is if he goes to the NBA as a head coach. However it is time for JP to give the Mayor a raise because two NCAA wins in three years is good enough for a raise.
CycloneErik
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I think that I need to start a hybrid thread:
What is our starting lineup next year if Fred leaves for Minnesota/NBA?
What is our starting lineup next year if Fred leaves for Minnesota/NBA?
I don't think it's been forgotten at all. It's been told and re-told ad nauseum in the print and blog media and some variation of it is recited by the tv crews every single time we are broadcast.
I'd agree Marquette is a much more attractive job than Minny, facilities money and tradition (plus Buzz has a lot of talent and more coming there), there are indications the AD and him don't have a good releationship (he was suspended recently) plus they are moving to the new Big East, which he may or may not be in favor of.
Do I think Buzz Williams would go to Minnesota? Nope.
Do I think Buzz has a better chance of going to Minnesota than Hoiberg? yes, which is to say 5% (Buzz) to 0% (Fred).
Yes, and I'm intersted in being the CEO Exxon Mobile. It doesn't mean it's newsworthy. And to be honest, if Minnesota is really "interested" in hiring him, then they are as high as Dienhart. Being "interested" when you are posting it as news, should have some plausiblity to it.
I get it, and it's still dumb.
CycloneErik
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Isn't that just part of the coaching search process for journalists and fans? Throw out big names and/or hot names, just to have something to talk about and look forward to?
Same thing we'd be doing. We did it in the day before Hoiberg was hired. In a few decades, we'll do it again.
Same thing we'd be doing. We did it in the day before Hoiberg was hired. In a few decades, we'll do it again.
Minn is a step down in every aspect besides local talent, which Minn does not get anyways.
Oh, and then there is the fact ISU and Ames are home for Fred.
Oh, and then there is the fact ISU and Ames are home for Fred.
I cannot for the life of me understand why Fred is a hot name for coaching vacancies!!!
1.) His players jack 3s all game every game. He doesnt coach, his offense is based on "chucking."
2.) He doesn't do it the "right way". He can't/ doesn't recruit HSers just gets all these poor character, poor academic, misfit convicts from Big Ten schools.
3.) He's a terrible late game coach - gets out-coached by everyone. He's especially terrible at fouling when up 3 when the opponent has the ball. Three year olds know this stuff.
1.) His players jack 3s all game every game. He doesnt coach, his offense is based on "chucking."
2.) He doesn't do it the "right way". He can't/ doesn't recruit HSers just gets all these poor character, poor academic, misfit convicts from Big Ten schools.
3.) He's a terrible late game coach - gets out-coached by everyone. He's especially terrible at fouling when up 3 when the opponent has the ball. Three year olds know this stuff.
To add on....
Cael is not from Ames, his family and extended family doesn't live in Ames, he didn't grow up a fan of Iowa State, didn't grow up attending every Iowa State wrestling dual, didn't grow up involved with the ISU wrestling program, etc, etc....
Cael wrestled at ISU and had an outstanding career but his ties to the program and university aren't even remotely close to the level of Hoibergs.
For someone to even think that Cael and Fred are in the same league when it comes to loyalty to ISU is not just wrong... It's completely insane.
I certainly hope you are right. Are you a prophet? I would be happy with 19 years.
CycloneErik
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Cael had in interesting interview on KXNO the other day. Baiscally said he needed a new start and really wasnt ready to step into the ISU job.
to be fair, he and his family lived there prior to moving back to Ames so am sure the family has friends there etc. so it would be less disruptive for his kids then some other jobs. Plus it isnt a bad recruiting base for a guy like Hoiberg so he would/could be successful there. That said the latter is true for most jobs including Iowa State and the former is less true for Minnesota than stauying put. Leaving for Minnesota would ruin his legacy and legend in a place he gambled all of it to build here. I would put the odds at less than .1% . Makes no sense. Heard Dan Gable on the radio over lunch, commenting on Cael, he said Cael was never an Iowan so his loyalties were never to the state. Said he left Iowa State but he never would have left Iowa for an opportunity (plus Gable wasnt head coach at at Iowa State). I think Fred is a lot more like Gable than Cael and a lot more loyal to ISU than either of them cant see him leaving anytime until ISU is a power and even then could only see him taking a stab at the pro's as a GM etc.
The vacated Final Four was the last time I can remember people giving a crap about Gopher basketball. Those post-sanctions years really killed interest. I was long gone from the state by time Tubby came on, so maybe he brought some interest back, but in the Minnesota sports scene I think it pretty much goes:
1.Vikings
2. Twins
3. Wild
4. Gophers Hockey
5. Timberwolves
6. Gophers MBB
And I would guess that as long as Lindsey Whalen is still playing for the Lynx, they might even give the Gophers MBB a run for their money on a good night. Gophers WBB definitely got more pub than the men when she was playing (it's actually kind of sad that program seems to have fallen on hard times).
Journalists don't don't simply list arbitrary names of good coaches. they list coaches who they feel are good and feasible fits. otherwise, why not list phil jackson? you don't list phil because he is not a feasibly realistic option. in his mind cfh is a feasibly realistic option.
his opinion is uninformed and stupid.
i wouldn't say fred is never going to move on. but minnesota would certainly be a head scratcher. if a blue blood like kentucky, north carolina etc. came after fred, i would be a little worried. minnesota? not so much.
