Rashad Vaughn - Not going to ISU

[Dandy]

Re: Rashad Vaughn

I think RV's "mentor" Pete Kaffey is going to try and steer him to Kentucky. Kaffey seems to favor the blue blood programs.

 

[kyle22kjs]

Re: Rashad Vaughn

If he doesn't come here. We couldn't have done more and it was never going to happen. We will still have a very talented team, and you never know who Fred can pull from the transfer wire. He is kind of good at that.

 

[IsUaClone2]

Re: Rashad Vaughn

I think RV's "mentor" Pete Kaffey is going to try and steer him to Kentucky. Kaffey seems to favor the blue blood programs.

I agree with this because I personally think Kaffey knows that Vaughn will be alright whatever school Vaughn selects (within reason). Therefore, Kaffey would like either to get a position with a prominent school (even if Vaughn doesn't end up attending there) or, if Vaughn selects a "blue blood school", be able to use that fact on his own resume to attract his next pupils.

 

[swarthmoreCY]

Re: Rashad Vaughn

I may have missed the meltdown, but Kentucky is a school that scares me. They have something very important and tangible that no other school does. They put every player they start into the NBA.


Should be a tense winter.

No they don't. They do not even put every high ranking recruit like Vaughn in the NBA- that has to be concerning. On the other hand, irrc, the three equivalent recruits ISU has signed (Fizer, Brackins, and Royce) have all been drafted in the first round. Royce is the only player I can remember that was choosing between ISU and UK and Royce would not have been a first round pick after one year had he gone to UK. There is only one ball and at ISU a top recruit will see it more often.

 

[enisthemenace]

Re: Rashad Vaughn

No they don't. They do not even put every high ranking recruit like Vaughn in the NBA- that has to be concerning. On the other hand, irrc, the three equivalent recruits ISU has signed (Fizer, Brackins, and Royce) have all been drafted in the first round. Royce is the only player I can remember that was choosing between ISU and UK and Royce would not have been a first round pick after one year had he gone to UK. There is only one ball and at ISU a top recruit will see it more often.

Huh? UK had 6 players drafted in 2012 alone. The top 2 picks and 3 in the first round.

 

[Rhoadhoused]

Re: Rashad Vaughn

No they don't. They do not even put every high ranking recruit like Vaughn in the NBA- that has to be concerning. On the other hand, irrc, the three equivalent recruits ISU has signed (Fizer, Brackins, and Royce) have all been drafted in the first round. Royce is the only player I can remember that was choosing between ISU and UK and Royce would not have been a first round pick after one year had he gone to UK. There is only one ball and at ISU a top recruit will see it more often.

If you think ISU is a better route to the NBA than Kentucky you are a homer.

 

[swarthmoreCY]

Re: Rashad Vaughn

Huh? UK had 6 players drafted in 2012 alone. The top 2 picks and 3 in the first round.

Good for them. Look it up, as a rule, not every starter gets drafted like was posted. Did or will every starter from last year's team get drafted?
Again, sure, UK has signed some great players and they have been drafted. They also have signed some great players that would have been drafted, or drafted higher by going almost anywhere else but UK. There is only one ball and so many minutes.

 

[swarthmoreCY]

Re: Rashad Vaughn

If you think ISU is a better route to the NBA than Kentucky you are a homer.

For most recruits there are dozens of places better. Speaking of being blind, you are missing simple economics. Would Brackins have been drafted in the first round at UK right now?

 

[Rhoadhoused]

Re: Rashad Vaughn

Good for them. Look it up, as a rule, not every starter gets drafted like was posted. Did or will every starter from last year's team get drafted?
Again, sure, UK has signed some great players and they have been drafted. They also have signed some great players that would have been drafted, or drafted higher by going almost anywhere else but UK. There is only one ball and so many minutes.

I'm sorry. Since 2010 they have had 17 draft picks in those 4 years. So in the past 4 years they have about 1 starter per year that isn't drafted.

 

[AuH2O]

Re: Rashad Vaughn

If you think ISU is a better route to the NBA than Kentucky you are a homer.

Correlation, not causation. Kentucky's players that go to the NBA were getting there no matter where they go.

 

[Wesley]

Re: Rashad Vaughn

Kentucky talent gets drafted because they are great players. Vaughn is a great player who will get drafted no matter where he goes. He can also better showcase his talent here. We play top competition, we are on tv, and we are on the rise big time on the national scene.

He said he wants to go somewhere where he can be the guy, close to home, play fast tempo, and have a good relationship with the coach.

Vaughn is coming to Iowa State. We are a perfect match, he's favoring us on twitter, and he's a young kid who what's attention. He loves the attention and is drawing it out, but he's coming here.

Watched UK a few times. The star effect is diluted with so many McD AAs. Seems their centers get most of the attention. When they only win by a little or lose, they look average and you realize that it takes a coordinated, hustling team to win.

 

[Rhoadhoused]

Re: Rashad Vaughn

For most recruits there are dozens of places better. Speaking of being blind, you are missing simple economics. Would Brackins have been drafted in the first round at UK right now?

If Kentucky convinces RV he will start, I think he goes there. That is the issue for them getting him there, I think.

If he doesn't play, no, it wouldn't be the best place for him. But once he commits it won't matter.

 

[Rhoadhoused]

Re: Rashad Vaughn

Correlation, not causation. Kentucky's players that go to the NBA were getting there no matter where they go.

Doesn't matter if that is correlation or causation, what matters is if someone can convince RV one way or the other. And Kentucky makes a strong case. And it works, or Kentucky wouldn't be getting all the recruits that they do.

 

[Wesley]

Re: Rashad Vaughn

Baylor beat UK. Repeat, Baylor won. Scott Drew outcoached Calipara. Scott called some good plays and had the right places for timeouts. Drew>>>Calipara last night.

 

[Rabbuk]

Re: Rashad Vaughn

Baylor beat UK. Repeat, Baylor won. Scott Drew outcoached Calipara. Scott called some good oplays anmd had the right places for timeouts. Drew>>>Calipara last night.

I was watching with my dad and commented on what a bad game day coach Drew was before tip... Boy did I feel silly.

 

[Rhoadhoused]

Re: Rashad Vaughn

Don't get me wrong guys, I would make the same argument you are if I was talking to Vaughn, but Calapari is using my argument and it works.

My fear of UK doesn't come from my fear that Kentucky will be able to put RV into the NBA better than ISU, it is that Calapari can convince him of that.

 

[swarthmoreCY]

Re: Rashad Vaughn

I'm sorry. Since 2010 they have had 17 draft picks in those 4 years. So in the past 4 years they have about 1 starter per year that isn't drafted.

Over the past four season there have been more starters than that not drafted.
Again, it is erroneous to state, or even allude, to signing at UK as being the cause in getting drafted. Kyle Wiltjer, Jon Hood, Ryan Harrow- all guys ranked near RV that would have had a better chance to get to the NBA by going almost anywhere else in major college basketball. So you think Brackins would have been drafted higher by playing at UK right now? How about White? How many of those guys that were fortunate enough to be drafted missed out on a lot of money by not being able to flourish like Brackins?

 

[Rhoadhoused]

Re: Rashad Vaughn

Over the past four season there have been more starters than that not drafted.
Again, it is erroneous to state, or even allude, to signing at UK as being the cause in getting drafted. Kyle Wiltjer, Jon Hood, Ryan Harrow- all guys ranked near RV that would have had a better chance to get to the NBA by going almost anywhere else in major college basketball. So you think Brackins would have been drafted higher by playing at UK right now? How about White? How many of those guys that were fortunate enough to be drafted missed out on a lot of money by not being able to flourish like Brackins?

Look at my last two posts. I probably shouldn't have used hyperbole. I rescind that statement. Kentucky sucks at putting players in the NBA.

 

[swarthmoreCY]

Re: Rashad Vaughn

Don't get me wrong guys, I would make the same argument you are if I was talking to Vaughn, but Calapari is using my argument and it works.

My fear of UK doesn't come from my fear that Kentucky will be able to put RV into the NBA better than ISU, it is that Calapari can convince him of that.

Well, if RV is as cursory as you, your fear may be valid. If he buys that though, he will eat up Fred's connections to the NBA getting them drafted even more so.
Recruits are buying the blue blood appeal more than Cal-NBA imo. Kentucky was getting top recruits long before Cal.

 

[WastedTalent]

Re: Rashad Vaughn

Watched UK a few times. The star effect is diluted with so many McD AAs. Seems their centers get most of the attention. When they only win by a little or lose, they look average and you realize that it takes a coordinated, hustling team to win.

I second this. I follow quite a bit of college bball, and watched majority of UK's game last night. The guys I recognized: Carly-Stein because he was there last year and was a surprise return, Randle because he's an obvious top freshman in country, and the Harrison twins only because its abnormal to have twins as top talents in the country. That's really it, and I know they have a handful of other McD all Americans. Some Jones kid was a good shooter, but never heard of him before, or during any UK analysis.

I'm sure if UK gets better and is a top seed later, we'll here more on some of these kids, but if not we may never know any of them. Other than Noel, right now, can't think of another draft pick from them last year...

Edit: But yes, Kentucky does get kids drafted.