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BBHMagic

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Aren't the rumors that Bleil will be gone?

I've heard Chris mention a couple times on the radio that he is surprised an announcement hasn't already been made for the firing of another coach on the staff.

If Coach K is the new OC, that is about as unexciting as it gets. But, when I think about it, its easy to see why its probably our best bet.
 

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If Coach K wasn't already on staff, this board would be jumping up and down based on his experience with the Pistol at Nevada, Kapernick being developed by him, etc.

I noticed back in the Kansas game that Grant was always met by Coach K every time, and that continued in the WVU game. I know that he was likely relaying messages from Messingham, but I think at the same time he may have been delivering his own message.

He is a heck of alot more qualified than Mess at calling plays at this level, the o-line is already position named for his offense, and he may have been the guy spending the season telling Mess what he should be calling with the offense in the film room.

I love the thought of fresh blood, but won't be in the dumps if it is him.

Good post. Me either. Qualifications between he and Mess are night and day different.
 

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I don't necessarily have a problem with this, but, why the **** did Rhoads wait all year if this was the choice he made? Sometimes I feel like CPR is not the best strategic thinker in the world.

I wonder if CPR brought in Coach K for this very reason, thinking that if Mess didn't perform this year he could always go to Coach K next year? If he was already at that point in his thinking, then he could have pulled the trigger earlier. One advantage that Coach K is that he already knows the strengths and weakness of the players, which is a huge leg up, learning curve wise vs. an outside OC who hasn't seen the team all year.
 
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If this were going to be the move, it should have already happened. Nothing against K, and nothing against hiring from within...but why don't you shuffle when we had games we could still win?

If he is going to be the OC, why not announce it ASAP so recruits who have given verbals can be reassured?
 

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Coach K will also know the terminology too. I could see that as being a big reason why Mess was our OC this reason instead of him.
 

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Coach K would be OL coach with OC. That would allow is to hire a great up and coming QB coach. Or Maybe Sturdy moves to QBs?

Those are probably going to be the only returning offensive coaches. That would allow Rhoads to hire a stud recruiter/RB coach, and find good WR and TE coaches.
 

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Coach K will also know the terminology too. I could see that as being a big reason why Mess was our OC this reason instead of him.

Folks should do a scan of Coach Klenakis on google. The guy has a REALLY impressive track record, an EXTREMELy well thought out approach and flat out understands the game.

I think we could be a much improved team with him at the helm.
 

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People need to get over the 'in house' hire butt hurt. So you don't think K is a good idea because Mess didn't work out? Ok, so who do you think has more knowledge about the entire situation, you or CPR? I get that this is a message board...we are all spit balling here but this idea that K wouldn't be a good hire just because he's already a coach CPR liked enough to hire makes no sense.

If anything, the continuity would give K a huge leg up...the formations he put into place this year will work but it takes time for a program to change the way we did.

I agree 100%.


I find it a stretch to consider coach K, someone who has been on the staff for less than a year, an insider.


Continuity is a huge thing and it's value shouldn't be over looked. Learning new terminology, signs, plays, etc in less than 9 months would be similar to learning a new foreign language. You wouldn't be too fluent so be prepared to take a step or two backwards before you start going forward. Do you think CPR wants to sit thru another season like we just had waiting for the offense to learn a new play book?


I also find it interesting that we hired coach K last Jan. as an OL coach but immediate starting implementing the offense he is known for, the pistol. Almost seems like CPR saw this coming.
 

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I don't know about this...

Why didn't we hand him a shot to call plays after the UNI or Iowa or even Baylor when it was clear the offense was pretty pathetic?

I will say that I was happy we started throwing it down the field during the West Virginia game, so maybe K did take over the reigns...
 

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Folks should do a scan of Coach Klenakis on google. The guy has a REALLY impressive track record, an EXTREMELy well thought out approach and flat out understands the game.

I think we could be a much improved team with him at the helm.

I didn't realize he was the OC at Southern Miss and Nevada on 2 occasions:
Chris Klenakis Career Summary
TitleTeamYears
Offensive Line CoachIowa State Cyclones2013
Offensive Line CoachArkansas Razorbacks2010 - 2012
Offensive CoordinatorNevada Wolfpack2004 - 2009
Offensive CoordinatorCentral Missouri Mules2003
Offensive CoordinatorSouthern Miss Golden Eagles2000 - 2002
Offensive CoordinatorNevada Wolfpack1997 - 1999
Assistant CoachNevada Wolfpack1990 - 1996
 

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Are people really upset that Rhoads didn't make this move earlier if he was going to do it? What makes you think he knew this was going to be his choice back then? He can't forsee who's going to be on the open market during mid season. Most coaches don't fire their OC after 1 1/2 years either.
 

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The more I read this thread, the more okay I am with K being promoted. I'd like fresh blood but would be okay with this move too
 
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I'd love for Sage to be the QB coach. Bring in a RB coach and fire Bliel and we're looking pretty good. We have a lot of talent and experience coming back. We had guys show flashes of brilliance.. It was just inconsistent.
 

BBHMagic

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If he is going to be the OC, why not announce it ASAP so recruits who have given verbals can be reassured?

I would guess that if Rhoads has decided on Coach K, he has already told recruits. I don't know what the reason would be for not telling the public yet, but just because you or I don't know the reason, doesn't mean there isn't one.
 

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I'm fine with K, but what's the hold up? Let's get it announced. Unless they are waiting to fill out the rest of the staff, but the sooner the better for these recruits.

I just hope Coach K, or whoever the new OC may be, puts in at least one package with the QB under center. Please!!!.......
 
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Psiclone

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I'm fine with K, but what's the hold up? Let's get it announced. Unless they are waiting to fill out the rest of the staff, but the sooner the better for these recruits.

I just hope Coach K, or whoever the new OC may be, puts in at least one package with the QB under center. Please!!!.......

I agree, the fact that this hasn't been already announced may be because a decision has not been made. Otherwise, why not announce it so current verbals can be reassured? I'm also not sure that telling a recruit that we intend to continue having a similar offense automatically means coach K will he the new OC. He may just be assuring the recruit that Rhoads intends to hire someone who has a similar offensive philosophy.
 

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I agree, the fact that this hasn't been already announced may be because a decision has not been made. Otherwise, why not announce it so current verbals can be reassured? I'm also not sure that telling a recruit that we intend to continue having a similar offense automatically means coach K will he the new OC. He may just be assuring the recruit that Rhoads intends to hire someone who has a similar offensive philosophy.

I bet Klenakis is on the short list, but I don't expect an announcement to come from CPR until the midst of or after the bowl season because the other guys on the short list are still coaching for their current teams. Just my guess.
 

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He was the OC at Nevada for a couple years.

Not hating on coach k but if this is all his experience then it is suspect. He worked for the creator of the pistol - did he call plays both years? why did he end up at arky as an OL coach rather than than somewhere else as an OC? I want someone with proven experience - at any level.