What else are we supposed to do? Out team hasn't lost yet so there's nothing to complain about so we have to go out of our way abit to find stuff to complain about. Plus the game is still a couple days away.
Oregon Vs Iowa State who is more effective with transfers?
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What else are we supposed to do? Out team hasn't lost yet so there's nothing to complain about so we have to go out of our way abit to find stuff to complain about. Plus the game is still a couple days away.
You mean trade two NCAA tourney wins for multiple BCS games and an appearance in the BCS NC game? No freaking comparison. I'd trade Oregon's FB success for pretty much anything outside of a NC in MBB.
The Oregon team has been doing really well this year. Arguably as well as Iowa State. To say we're 4 years closer is totally ignorant, especially considering 1-2 year talent gets most teams to the Final 4 nowadays.
It's interesting — when Amardi deal didn't pan out, CF fanbase was understandably deflated a little ... after seeing Hogue in action, those discussions have all but ceased.
#1 - no it doesn't even HINT at that. It just says the Ducks have lots of transfers and NOTHING remotely claiming to have pioneered the practice - which I would argue wasn't pioneered by CFH either.
#2 - It's their school paper talking about their school's basketball team.
Reading comprehension - it's FUNdamental-ly missing from so very many people.
This. Just look at Baylor this year. They put up video game numbers and were getting little credit for being an actual title contender. You could almost feel that the major media was just hoping they would lose so they had a reason to drop them out of the title race behind a half dozen other 1 loss teams when Baylor had just as good as arguement as anyone. I don't doubt the same would be the case with ISU if we had that kind of success. I'll take what we are bulding in the basketball program and let CPR and Co to work out the kinks in the football program.
Oooooo FUNny guy... even though you appear to have missed the title and the last line of the whole article.
The 2 programs maybe can be compared now with regards to transfers, but to me it seems like Fred started taking/recruiting/accepting transfers in a much different and much more risky way. ISU wasn't just getting graduated 5th-year seniors like Kane, or JC guys (most programs have sustained themselves from the JC ranks, at least to a degree, for years). He was taking on misfits, athletic guys that for one reason or another didn't make it work at their first school, etc. Because of the great season he had here, it's sometimes hard to remember that bringing Royce White, Booker, Babb etc. to Ames, for a coach in his first job, was a big risk for his program, yet Fred made it work, and ISU became affectionately known as "an island of misfit toys" for a couple seasons. Fred basically gambled a part of his reputation on this strategy, and now look at him, and us by extension.
You're delusional. If Baylor hadn't lost a game, they'd be in the NC playing against Florida State.
That doesn't really day they started it. I read that more of they are a part of it
That was kind of the whole point. Unless we are undefeated and no SEC team is we wouldn't be playing there. The second spot would still be up for grabs if Alabama hadn't lost but it would have gone to Florida State.
I think Dana Altman had the same mentality as Fred Hoiberg. Oregon and Iowa State were both lacking talent, and both Hoiberg and Altman didn't want to wait around building the program up over the course of 4-5 years getting "their" players into their systems. Instead, they both went out and grabbed as many talented, DI ready/experienced guys as they could. I think its paid off for Hoiberg a little more so far as we've reached the NCAA tourney twice, to them just reaching it once. However, Altman has done a great job with Oregon. I can definitely see them as a sweet 16 type team this year.
Another team that has been doing the transfer is Missouri. Frank Haith has picked up a few key transfers the past few seasons and it seems to be working out well for them too. Overall, I like to think Hoiberg was really the first to go and grab a whole bunch of transfers and make it work. I mean, at one point our starting 5 had 4 transfers on it (Babb, White, Allen, Scotty-McDermott transfer though). Last year it was Babb, Clyburn, Lucious. We've definitely had the most influx of transfers out of everyone and I think anytime a big time player is transferring from a bigger school or even smaller school, Iowa State is one of the first places they are going to look because of the recent success we've had. All of our transfers have been extremely successful under Hoiberg.
Another team that has been doing the transfer is Missouri. Frank Haith has picked up a few key transfers the past few seasons and it seems to be working out well for them too. Overall, I like to think Hoiberg was really the first to go and grab a whole bunch of transfers and make it work. I mean, at one point our starting 5 had 4 transfers on it (Babb, White, Allen, Scotty-McDermott transfer though). Last year it was Babb, Clyburn, Lucious. We've definitely had the most influx of transfers out of everyone and I think anytime a big time player is transferring from a bigger school or even smaller school, Iowa State is one of the first places they are going to look because of the recent success we've had. All of our transfers have been extremely successful under Hoiberg.
Baylor losing against Okie State completely killed any shot at a title chance. But before they even lost that game there was already talk about how a case could be made for a 1 loss SEC team over an undefeated Baylor team. If Baylor wins out and Alabama doesnt lose that last game to Auburn there is no way that Baylor gets in the national championship game. So no I wouldn't say that was delusional to say considering as soon as Baylor lost nobody was even talking about them as a possibility for a shot.
That's ridiculous. Same thing would have happened to tOSU if they and Bama were undefeated. Baylor is still in a BCS bowl, which is the standard...similar to the Elite Eight. And from here on out, there's going to be a playoff. By the time ISU is good enough to play in it (if they ever will be), that playoff will be at least 8 teams. ISU would play in that no problem if they went undefeated and they would have a great shot still with one loss...just like Baylor playing in the BCS this year.
Who cares if Oregon is known as transfer U too. I just want to thank Dana for leaving Creighton and making this all possible.
PS. Dana is even a worse guys name than Fran.
PS. Dana is even a worse guys name than Fran.
