Grading Conference Realignment
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Dude doesn't pull any punches on Nebraska...while taking somewhat of a shot at Iowa in the process. I think TCU should have got a lower grade.
I don't really understand that article premise. Would A&M not have won a lot of games with Johnny Manziel in the Big 12? Would Colorado have sucked any less if they hadn't left?
A&M and Mizzou clearly are doing fine football wise.
Pitt & Cuse are too soon to tell.
Neb has actually been successful compared to every other team, but probably because Neb was the only team who actually moved to a weaker football conference. Everyone else took a lateral move or move to a better football conference and they're paying the price.
These topics always leave out BYU but I think when CU originally left BYU could have been Big 12 if they played their cards right. TCU and WVU are struggling but at least they're on the radar, BYU may have been better off in the MWC, can't see how football independence is helping them at all so far.
Pitt & Cuse are too soon to tell.
Neb has actually been successful compared to every other team, but probably because Neb was the only team who actually moved to a weaker football conference. Everyone else took a lateral move or move to a better football conference and they're paying the price.
These topics always leave out BYU but I think when CU originally left BYU could have been Big 12 if they played their cards right. TCU and WVU are struggling but at least they're on the radar, BYU may have been better off in the MWC, can't see how football independence is helping them at all so far.
It makes more sense when you're looking at MWC and Big East teams who stepped up. The power conference to power conference moves you're probably right.
Neb might have done a tiny bit worse in the Big 12, they weren't going to totally suck or be totally awesome in either conference.
Prior to this year Missouri definitely would be towards the bottom of this . They strike lightening in a bottle this year and all of a sudden everyone thinks their move to the SEC was a good move. I still think its a bad move by Missouri and once they settle in the SEC they will be mediocre. I heard on ESPN Radio that their team this year is like 80% players recruited to play in the Big 12..not the SEC. Who knows maybe Missouri will get better when they have all SEC players but I just can't see them doing what they did this year again.
Missouri hoops is probably the most negatively affected major basketball program in the whole thing. Most other teams their basketball program was irrelevant, moved laterally or got a boost up in conference.
And just look at Baylor this year. Who's to say that A&M last year or Mizzou this year wouldn't have run the table in the Big 12 and been in line for a NC shot? The television package at the time they left was bad, but that still would have improved to its current excellent state if they had stayed. I don't understand this concept that they got such an upgrade in exposure. If anything it "exposed" how overblown the difference in talent between Big 12 and SEC was prior to realignment, but nobody wants to go and discuss that in hindsight.
I think it would be interesting if the Big 12 put a carrot in front of Colorado State. Get winning football, basketball, fan support, etc and you will be considered for expansion.
If CSU could work its way into a TCU or Boise player, I'd love for the Big 12 to get back into Colorado.
If CSU could work its way into a TCU or Boise player, I'd love for the Big 12 to get back into Colorado.
I agree with you. The article doesn't make a ton of sense. The only thing that has changed for Nebraska the last decade is what conference they're playing in. They're the same program in the Big 10 that they were when they left the Big 12. The same for Colorado.
That is exactly what they were saying on ESPN Radio prior to the SEC championship. They said how much of a slap in the face it would be to the traditional "powerful" SEC if Missouri wins the SEC championship with mostly Big 12 recruited players. Obviously that didn't happen but still the point stands, is the SEC that much better than the Big 12?
How can you call TCU, Utah, Pitt, Syracuse, and West Virginia anything but huge successes? They managed to move into the big leagues, or at least move out of a collapsing league to remain in the big leagues. Every person at those schools is happy with where they are now over where they would be had they not moved.
For TAMU, Mizzou, Nebby, and Colorado, things are different. Nebraska and Colorado are both astronomical failures of realignment. For A&M and Mizzou, the jury's still out I think. Looks like it'll work out better for A&M than Mizzou though.
For TAMU, Mizzou, Nebby, and Colorado, things are different. Nebraska and Colorado are both astronomical failures of realignment. For A&M and Mizzou, the jury's still out I think. Looks like it'll work out better for A&M than Mizzou though.
Analyze all the individual teams and results you want. The loser is the Big 12. Texas A&M, Missouri, Nebraska, Colorado gone. And we get WVU and TCU in return?
I think they are grading on their performance since joining their respected leagues, not the move itself.
ISU gets at least 24 million a year from television revenue now than prior to the realignment. I wouldn't quite call that losing compared to the fraction ISU got prior to realignment. I do miss our regional match ups with Missouri, Nebraska, and Colorado though.
I'm interested to see how A&M does going forward. They've become a major player in college football riding the Johnny Football wave but he's history after the bowl game. Their national brand has risen significantly and their recruiting has seen the positive effects, they are pouring a ton of money into making their stadium into among the nation's best, Texas has fallen off a little bit...everything seems to be going right for Aggy...knowing Aggy that's what makes me think the bottom is going to fall out.
No more Johnny Football to make up for an atrocious defense, will Sumlin leave to take an NFL job, Texas got rid of Mack Brown and Baylor is becoming a power. I could see A&M coming back to earth soon
No more Johnny Football to make up for an atrocious defense, will Sumlin leave to take an NFL job, Texas got rid of Mack Brown and Baylor is becoming a power. I could see A&M coming back to earth soon
They money and national attention alone brings TCU to the top 3. That's a huge step up for them.
First thing I got from the write-up was that two teams that moved from the B12 are doing better in the SEC than they were in the B12. Could this possibly be interpreted as an indication that the SEC prowess has been overblown? It may not be true, but it at least should have been noted as a topic for discussion.
A&M was 8-4 with the best player in the country on their team, they've been a recruiting heavyweight for years. They beat Bama and OU last year, who'd they beat this year? 8-4(each lost to Ole Miss) gets Mack Brown run out of Texas, it gets Sumlin an extension. That tells me more about who the top team in Texas.
