College players can do the same thing. Neither the AFL nor the CFL has age restrictions that I'm aware of.
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College players can do the same thing. Neither the AFL nor the CFL has age restrictions that I'm aware of.
Plenty of kids are transferring when they are unhappy with their current coach/situation...Is it to a more lucrative school? Not always, but they feel the situation is better for them. Example: Wesley Johnson - Syracuse at the time was a heck of a lot more lucrative than Iowa State was at the time.
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Or high school kids (basketball players) can pull a Brandon Jennings if they'd like also.
The players know the deal going into it and it's not like they don't get something other than the tuition and meals out of it. They get a branding opportunity that could not possibly get anywhere else. Johny Football is a star long before he'll ever step on an NFL field.
If people thought that they could take high school graduates and create a NFL feeder system where the players are paid, they'd have already done it. Some colleges could pay players fairly easily, but make no mistake the players need those schools far more than the schools need those players.
If people thought that they could take high school graduates and create a NFL feeder system where the players are paid, they'd have already done it. Some colleges could pay players fairly easily, but make no mistake the players need those schools far more than the schools need those players.
Basketball players have the option to go to Europe and play immediately in hopes of being drafted.
What stopped Bryce Harper's path to the major leagues?
Wanna play football? The Canadian football league would love some talent.
The NBA/NFL/MLB/etc. have their rules on entrance into their leagues and that's their right. If you don't like their rules you can do any of the above as alternatives.
I want to be a licensed CPA. Unfortunately for me the AICPA (who can DIAF) says I have to have 24 hours of accounting credits and 150 credit hours before I'm able to take the exam. I don't like it but guess what? They call the shots and I have to live with it.
And compete with the already ginormous foothold the NCAA has on semi-professional sports? Even if it were a better idea, and I think it probably is, the odds of being successful in that would be slim to none at this point.
Honestly the entire system of college athletics is the problem now that it has become a multi-million dollar industry. In my opinion in a perfect world college should be about the education and the sports be the extracurricular activity, for big time college athletics it's the other way around. There should be college athletics for people who want to get an education and they can play sports at the school if they choose. For players that are interested in just being athletes there should be a minor league or academy type system where they'd go to get paid and progress towards a pro career.
Somewhere along the line, or maybe from the start I don't know, we combined the idea of a minor league system for basketball and football with college athletics, which works out splendidly for the NFL and the NBA because they get kids coming into the league that are already household brand names without having to pay for any of it.
Somewhere along the line, or maybe from the start I don't know, we combined the idea of a minor league system for basketball and football with college athletics, which works out splendidly for the NFL and the NBA because they get kids coming into the league that are already household brand names without having to pay for any of it.
no, no I'm not.
If I was, somebody would have already created a league that replaced the NCAA.
I think at this point the only group that could hope to compete with the NCAA in terms of drawing players to play for them instead would be one of the professional leagues, but they would have no reason to do something like that.
You can say that if you just create a league and tell college athletes that we'll pay you to play that they'd go there if money was important to them. But in order to get to the next level you need exposure, you need to compete against talent that shows the NFL or NBA that you can be successful there, to start a league and get those type of things when the NCAA is already a juggernaut would be unbelievably difficult to pull off.
why wouldn't it? If this league could pay the players, wouldn't they get all of the best players? So if it's really the players who drive the interest in college football and not the schools, then they should dominate the NCAA in terms of interest.
As an ISU fan, are you going to stop cheering for ISU and start cheering for the Iowa Cornholio's in the new Straight Cash Homie Football League?
Why does the NCAA give them exposure? You think it has to do with the millions of built in fans that colleges bring with them?
Because it's been positioned for decades as the only game in town for young athletes trying to get to the NFL or NBA? Because it has insane television contracts that put them in basically every home across America with a television?
The television argument has merit, but that's only a short term problem if you truly believe that it's the players that drive the fan support.
Decades of fan support is the exact reason why it would be impossible to compete with the NCAA. Players come and go, but the name on the front of the jersey stays the same (well unless you're Iowa State)
How short term? The NCAA is I would say firmly entrenched as the place to go for athletes looking to go pro. You likely wouldn't just outright steal all the players necessary to create a successful league in the first season, it would take years of convincing kids that your league can give them the same chance to go pro as the NCAA and your league wouldn't have the benefit of having been doing it for decades like the NCAA. You'd have to convince ESPN, CBS, FOX etc. that they should give your league air time when they've been making buku bucks off the NCAA for years.
I think it'd take many years to make that kind of change in the perception of the NCAA compared to a new start up league in fans, players, pro teams, tv stations, etc.
Also I think that schools need players just like players need schools, I just think players get the raw end of the deal because people say they get education and room and board paid for them but that education that is the major part of their "payment" has a very subjective level of value depending on the person and how much they care about it.
Not all of those networks get a ton of money currently from college football. You think Fox or NBC wouldn't love to drive a stake through ABC's stranglehold on nonNFL football?
Also, you can't just ignore historical value when starting a business. I'm free to start my own CPA firm if I wish but I can't just wave a magic wand and pretend that the other cpa firms in the area that have been around longer never happened.
You're a soccer fan right? You think the teams in MLS made a ton or money starting out? You think ESPN is killing it in the ratings right now showing those games or the overseas leagues? Probably not, but they're not that concerned about current ratings, they're interested in being the company with the tv deal if/when it does become a ratings driver. So you think people are willing to take risks like that for Soccer but wouldn't be willing to do the same for football?
I agree. I assume it'd be tough to get a CPA firm off the ground if for decades there had been one and only one CPA firm that was basically universally accepted as being the place to go and had all the talented CPAs. What are the odds of success in creating a new CPA firm under those circumstances?
One major difference is the MLS wasn't creating a product that had a decades old, highly successful competitor in the same exact market fighting over the same talent.
My point is you say that it would be easy and not take long to create a league that would rival the NCAA just by paying players, I say it would be very difficult, and be a long process. The NCAA has a lot going for it, it has gotten progressively more successful and everyone involved, except for the players, have gotten progressively richer for it.
