Pollard On Student Section

[ISUCyclones2015]

If you can't go to the game, don't buy tickets. If you've already bought tickets and you can't go, give/sell them to someone who can.

It's not rocket surgery.

To give away a ticket with the new system it costs $2 PER TICKET. Now $2 ain't a lot but it is just a pain in the ***.

 

[cmjh10]

Really? Starting week 4, there was a gigantic surge of students preparing for exams at 3 PM on a Saturday afternoon?

I get that people make life choices, but this one isn't even possibly true.

I have 3 tests this week, so for some the exam excuse could be used. (I didnt use it though.)

 

[twocoach]

The line thing actually makes sense to me. Would be a cold day in hell before I stood out there for 5 hours waiting to get in and I am as big a fan as it gets. My nephew stood out there for like 4 or 5 hours before the KU game. Wasn't a big deal since it was the first day of class and he could afford to miss some, but you can't do that every game. And instead of walking over there, freezing your a** off and then not getting in, I could see people just not going. Maybe a stupid question but why not just assign seating? Seniors that have gotten tickets for 4 years in front, freshmen in the back, and call it good. Seems like an easy solution.

Just a reminder that if there are 2100 students not showing up for games and this is a fairly regular occurence then lines are not a problem. You could walk right up 5 minutes before game time and get a seat just fine. Lame excuse.

 

[WhatchaGonnaDo]

As a student, I'm embarrassed. We've had two top 25 matchups in a row at home now, and we can't fill our student section. Disgusting.

People who have conflicts aren't able/don't want to go through the hassle of selling their ticket because it isn't a convenient system. Find some stranger on the internet who wants it. Print it out. Work out a time to meet that random person. Just bad.

The other thing that I think is turning people away is that you pretty much have to wait in line to get a spot in the lower level. Maybe people don't want to waste their time and end up getting stuck in the upper level? Seems stupid, because you still get to see the game, but I'm sure that's a factor.

 

[roundball]

To give away a ticket with the new system it costs $2 PER TICKET. Now $2 ain't a lot but it is just a pain in the ***.

Oh the humanity!

Seriously, you're offering this as a legitimate excuse?

 

[twocoach]

As a student, I was disappointed in my friends cuz the two I usually go with both bailed (one was hungover... ***** and one had a major project). There's a lot of reasons that the attendance is so low though:The lines I almost didn't go since I couldn't find someone to go with until 45 minutes before tip-off and figured I would likely not get a seat. As a student, you never know whether you'll get turned away and have to walk home after walking to Hilton in the cold and snow. After KSU and OU, I'll know now that I can show up after they start letting students in and still get a seat, but many students feel like games are too much of a time investment since you often have two home games in a week and the popular games you'll have to wait in line for two-three hours plus the two hours of game time. The Iowa and MU game were miserable. The waiting in line turned off a *lot* of students. I was in line for Iowa 4 hours before tipoff and was one of the last 20 or so people let in. Had to split the whole group up and take single seats.Selling tickets is kinda a pain in the *** Student tickets can't be sold on TicketExchange, so in order to sell tickets, you have to meet up with the person to ensure they pay you. You can email a ticket to someone, but you can't exchange money for the ticket through the login. I've had friends get ripped off by forwarding a ticket to someone and then not getting paid back.BBall tickets sell out early I have a friend who wanted basketball tickets but were in consideration for an internship which would have meant they would be in another state for the fall and first half of spring semesters. They didn't try and buy tickets until they were certain of their plans until May, by which time all tickets were sold out. I have a number of friends who went to games consistently last year but didn't get tickets this year since they sold out soon after going on sale. Part of this is reminding students nearer to the deadline.Part of the solution would be to only have Iowa/KU, etc. tickets for the first 3,000 or so student tickets so those would be the only games where people would know they'd have to camp out. I say oversell the other games by even more. You'll get more of the "sure i'll go, what the hell" sort of crowd.I'm also all for making students be in their seats 30 minutes before tip and selling extra seats. Maybe have a gamewatch in Scheman for people who want to be on standby for those tickets so at least they don't have to go all the way to Hilton to be turned away and go home.And don't worry. I'm giving my friends a very hard time.

Everyone here wants ISU to become a national relevant program. All the BS you listed are just exceuses why that won't happen. It is absurd that ISU students don't support their team at this critical juncture in the programs history. You don't think ISU recruits read these types of stories? Both ISU and Okie State have had to have their AD or coach pleading for students to xcome to games in the last week. That doesn't exactly scream "our fans love our team." Don't turn into Mizzou and only fill the arena when Kansas comes to town. People may think it's not a big deal to just eat their tickets if they can't make a game but it adds up. Every ticket holder should have a list of people who would be willing and happy to use their ticket if they are not able to. My family was not able to use their tickets to the ISU @ Kansas game last week and it took us about five seconds to find some KU fans to buy those tickets from us.

 

[Cardinal2001]

To give away a ticket with the new system it costs $2 PER TICKET. Now $2 ain't a lot but it is just a pain in the ***.

Not only $2 to give it away, but $2 to print it, too.

That's 2/3 of the cost of an original season ticket.

 

[Cypower69]

I have an Iowa graduate that works for me. He attended his first game at Hilton last week and he is a season ticket holder at Carver. His comment to me this morning was that he could see that it is a good home court but what is up with the lack of students. No excuse for that people.

 

[twocoach]

As a student, I'm embarrassed. We've had two top 25 matchups in a row at home now, and we can't fill our student section. Disgusting.People who have conflicts aren't able/don't want to go through the hassle of selling their ticket because it isn't a convenient system. Find some stranger on the internet who wants it. Print it out. Work out a time to meet that random person. Just bad.The other thing that I think is turning people away is that you pretty much have to wait in line to get a spot in the lower level. Maybe people don't want to waste their time and end up getting stuck in the upper level? Seems stupid, because you still get to see the game, but I'm sure that's a factor.

Students are mad they have to stand in line to sit in the lower level? Seriously? Kansas opens the door for student section seating 2 hours before game time and the people that sit in the lower level have been sitting in line for HOURS before that. My father's job advice is "behave as if you have the promotion you want to have, not the job you currently have". If ISU fans want their program to be top tier, then they need to behave as if they already are top tier. Recruits notice when fans support their teams in nasty weather or against less desirable opponents. Don't wait until the program is elite to attend regularly or they will never get the recruits to be elite.

 

[WhatchaGonnaDo]

Students are mad they have to stand in line to sit in the lower level? Seriously? Kansas opens the door for student section seating 2 hours before game time and the people that sit in the lower level have been sitting in line for HOURS before that. My father's job advice is "behave as if you have the promotion you want to have, not the job you currently have". If ISU fans want their program to be top tier, then they need to behave as if they already are top tier. Recruits notice when fans support their teams in nasty weather or against less desirable opponents. Don't wait until the program is elite to attend regularly or they will never get the recruits to be elite.

**** off.

 

[JP4CY]

$2 for tickets, exams, c'mon people. This isn't a Greg McDermott team that we have. Get to Hilton.

 

[twocoach]

Not only $2 to give it away, but $2 to print it, too.That's 2/3 of the cost of an original season ticket.

I am fairly certain that you should be able to find someone to buy a ticket to a game against a ranked opponent for TEN DOLLARS. Put an ad on craigslist. It's free and easy and takes about two minutes.

 

[CycloneErik]

Students are mad they have to stand in line to sit in the lower level? Seriously? Kansas opens the door for student section seating 2 hours before game time and the people that sit in the lower level have been sitting in line for HOURS before that. My father's job advice is "behave as if you have the promotion you want to have, not the job you currently have". If ISU fans want their program to be top tier, then they need to behave as if they already are top tier. Recruits notice when fans support their teams in nasty weather or against less desirable opponents. Don't wait until the program is elite to attend regularly or they will never get the recruits to be elite.

Not a bad point here.

 

[MNCyGuy]

If they are already tracking student attendance and the lines are causing issues (line-cutters, turning off students) they should just go to semi-assigned seating next year. Break the seats up into lower-lower, upper-lower, and balcony and assign ticket in each zone based game attendance this year. You could still oversell so more students can get tickets and just set it up so each student ticket package has one or two random games not included (maybe weigh the marquee games more heavily in favor of upperclassmen and high attendance). Set up an online system for students to swap out games they have conflicts with. Freshman start out in the balcony and if they really come out and support the team they should have earned good seats by their junior or senior year. Spread out the designated CA committee member seats across all 6 student seating sections and have them earn their keep by keeping the students in their sections engaged. Do your jersey giveaways or student section contests for money in the stands during warm-ups in order to get students in their seats and jacked up early before the games.

 

[jkclone]

Just because they are bad excuses to us doesn't mean they are bad excuses to others. As much as I'd like every fan to literally bleed cardinal and gold blood it isn't going to happen.

We have to do what people want if we want them to do what we want.

 

[CyFan61]

Students are mad they have to stand in line to sit in the lower level? Seriously? Kansas opens the door for student section seating 2 hours before game time and the people that sit in the lower level have been sitting in line for HOURS before that. My father's job advice is "behave as if you have the promotion you want to have, not the job you currently have". If ISU fans want their program to be top tier, then they need to behave as if they already are top tier. Recruits notice when fans support their teams in nasty weather or against less desirable opponents. Don't wait until the program is elite to attend regularly or they will never get the recruits to be elite.

I get your point and I don't disagree with most of it, but it's just dumb to use Kansas as a measuring stick for Iowa State. No, our students will not behave like yours right now. If we win the next 9 conference championships in a row, with some Final Fours added in, then our students would.

This is like complaining about KU student turnout at football games and then pointing to Alabama as an example that they should measure up to.

 

[NATEizKING]

Not a bad point here.

Only good thing is the recruits sit on the same side as the embarrassment and may not see the empty seats way up behind them. Either that or go the RV route and bring them to a game people are guaranteed to show up to.

 

[carvers4math]

That comment just kind of annoys me. My son is a junior and never missed a men's game. However, he was very close to not getting in to the Iowa and KU games because he actually goes to class. Again why I think the students who actually go to games should be given some kind of seating preference. It might improve all the games attendance if the students who just go to the big games won't get their great seats to mug on TV (which is what they seem to care about) if they don't show up more.

 

[MNCyGuy]

That comment just kind of annoys me. My son is a junior and never missed a men's game. However, he was very close to not getting in to the Iowa and KU games because he actually goes to class. Again why I think the students who actually go to games should be given some kind of seating preference. It might improve all the games attendance if the students who just go to the big games won't get their great seats to mug on TV (which is what they seem to care about) if they don't show up more.

See my post above. I really think assigned zone seating is the way to go for the student section. I'm sure it would have it's own issues, but it sure seems like it would solve a lot of the current headaches.

 

[jabalke]

Really? Starting week 4, there was a gigantic surge of students preparing for exams at 3 PM on a Saturday afternoon?

I get that people make life choices, but this one isn't even possibly true.

For 4 exam classes, yes. This is when a lot of exams are. And no, I didn't say this is what everyone was doing.