Who's YOUR starting QB?

CyDude16

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I'd be okay with either, I trust that Mangino will play to their strenghs. It was good to see Rohach progress some even under "the mess". Hopefully whoever it is can stay healthy a whole season.
 

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I have to believe the new offensive coaching staff will choose the player that does the most best and devolps him avid sticks with him. If Rohach or Richardson are even to Lanning, I think you take the redshirt feshman and give a chance to make an impact for 4 years, but my gut says its Rohach based on accuracy
 

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It's a clean slate, start the best QB PERIOD. Junior, sophomore, freshman, or even true freshman.
 

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It should be a really good competition between Rohach and Richardson this Spring. My best guess is that Richardson will be starting QB next Fall due to him "picking up" Mangino's offense faster than any other QB. I would think that the QB that gains Mangino's confidence the quickest will have the inside track.
 

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I dont see why everyone is still so high on Richardson. Go watch the West Virginia game replay where Rohach led us to the OT win. He threw for over 300 yards in the Kansas and WV games, (true they didnt have the best defenses in the Big 12, but I definitely wouldnt say that throwing over 300 yards in back to back games isnt impressive). He has shown steady improvement, Richardson has shown the complete opposite. Lanning completely controlled the scout team this year from what Ive heard and read, but so did Rohach the year before (scout team player of the year). It will be an interesting spring and fall camp, but I say the final competition comes down to Rohach/Lanning. Either way, excited to see how all the QB's develop under Mangino. Will be an exciting season for sure with all the new hires

Go watch the Texas game, and see what a 75% healthy Richardson is capable of.
 

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I have to believe the new offensive coaching staff will choose the player that does the most best and devolps him avid sticks with him. If Rohach or Richardson are even to Lanning, I think you take the redshirt feshman and give a chance to make an impact for 4 years, but my gut says its Rohach based on accuracy

Mangino has used two qbs in the past.....
 

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Mangino has used two qbs in the past.....
Good point.

With Mangino here, and him recognizing the need to have an actual QB coach, I am excited about the QB battle this time. I think both SR and GR showed they can do some things, and the young guys have some tools too.
 

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Go watch the Texas game, and see what a 75% healthy Richardson is capable of.

Richardson was lucky to be 75%. I don't think he was. Yet, he had us on the brink of winning that game. UT's Defense > KUs & WVUs combined.

If Rohach wins it though, I will be fine. I will trust Mangino to lead that side of the ball and for the correct decision to be made.

What Richardson went through last season reminds me somewhat of what Austin Flynn went through when he first was playing QB. If also reminded me of later when Brett Meyer was running for his life playing QB. Many like to point out the lack of development of the QB position - kind of hard to develop if the OL can't keep them upright. Mangino fixes the OL first - he will have to and then the QB development comes after that. Mangino did this at KU without ever having and OL rated over 4* and a majority were 2*.
 

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Steamin' Willie Beaman, but I still have a soft spot for Cap Rooney, who is very SBR-esque in his ability to play through the pain.

Thought very much along these same lines, but how about Jimmy Dix? If only he hadn't been banned from the league for gambling and alleged drug abuse.
 

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Due to the mess we had last year results almost have to be thrown out. The physical traits that stick out are Richarson is more elusive and Rohach as a stronger arm. If one of the younger guys has both arm and elusiveness, the whole package, I would put my bets there.
 

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I have always liked Richardson as the QB. I think when healthy, he can be really good for us. He was probably more hurt than the coaching staff led on which resulted in some not so good games.

It's frustrating as fans, but the kid was still only a redshirt sophomore last year and still has the potential for a lot of development. When things start going bad, I think we start jumping to irrational conclusions and want immediate results.

But whoever the coaching staff chooses, I will support 110%. Not having an offensive coordinator named Messingham should help as well. Although after the first bubble screen of the season, I will be calling for Mangino's head.

According to comments that Rhoads has now made, it appears we had several players hurt more than the coaching staff ever let on to the rest of us.

Rohach finished strong. Deserves to be #1 heading into spring ball. After that we will see. A healthy SBR will make things real interesting. I expect Mangino to improve the play at QB alot. Plus, I see Sturdy as QB coach being better than Mess. Hate to beat a dead horse, but.....

So Rohach starts the first game, Richardson also plays. Lanning is #3. Hodge changes positions (although it is still too early). DLC redshirts.

The biggest improvement on offense will be on the coaching side of the ball. We now have a Wally Burnham type of coach in Mark Mangino. And I love the idea of Tommy Mangino being on staff. I bet Mark Mangino is having a ball right now. CPR made a great choice.
 

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Thought very much along these same lines, but how about Jimmy Dix? If only he hadn't been banned from the league for gambling and alleged drug abuse.
Jimmy would be awesome. Best arm in the league. Bullet through the hand and riding a horse yet could still hit the target.
 

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Linked is a short article (from several years ago) regarding Coach Sturdy and developing QBs.

BLACK: Quarterback Building: Todd Sturdy

PS Also recently learned that Coach Sturdy was being rumored to be the new QB coach at USF (mid-January article).

Good article. I don't ever think there was an element of trust between our QB's and Mess. Mess was too quick to throw the QB's under the bus and drive over them in an attempt to save his own skin. Hate to make Mess the scapegoat, but yet Mess was a big part of the problem. Our offense had no cohesion or focus and was just a hodge podge of nothing.
 

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According to comments that Rhoads has now made, it appears we had several players hurt more than the coaching staff ever let on to the rest of us.

Rohach finished strong. Deserves to be #1 heading into spring ball. After that we will see. A healthy SBR will make things real interesting. I expect Mangino to improve the play at QB alot. Plus, I see Sturdy as QB coach being better than Mess. Hate to beat a dead horse, but.....

So Rohach starts the first game, Richardson also plays. Lanning is #3. Hodge changes positions (although it is still too early). DLC redshirts.

The biggest improvement on offense will be on the coaching side of the ball. We now have a Wally Burnham type of coach in Mark Mangino. And I love the idea of Tommy Mangino being on staff. I bet Mark Mangino is having a ball right now. CPR made a great choice.

Agree with Stormin here. We all know the O line was banged up most of the year. We also know Richardson was not even close to 100%. Do we know if Richardson will have to (or already has) undergone any off season surgery or were his injuries just multiple, but not serious?

Rochach deserves to head into spring ball #1. I do however think Richardson compares more favorably to Todd Reesing in Mangino's system. The question is did Mangino's start Reesing (with this similar skill set to Richardson) because he really liked his game or was Reesing the best he had at the time? I believe our QB situation to be far better than what Mangino's had during his tenure at KU. Mangino's appears to have more options to work with here, which gives me hope he really can do something special with our offense this year.
 

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Agree with Stormin here. We all know the O line was banged up most of the year. We also know Richardson was not even close to 100%. Do we know if Richardson will have to (or already has) undergone any off season surgery or were his injuries just multiple, but not serious?

Rochach deserves to head into spring ball #1. I do however think Richardson compares more favorably to Todd Reesing in Mangino's system. The question is did Mangino's start Reesing (with this similar skill set to Richardson) because he really liked his game or was Reesing the best he had at the time? I believe our QB situation to be far better than what Mangino's had during his tenure at KU. Mangino's appears to have more options to work with here, which gives me hope he really can do something special with our offense this year.

Reesing was pretty damn good. And Mangino moved Kerry Meier to WR from QB.

I keep thinking to Mangino's press conference when he was announced as the ISU OC. Mangino said that the offense had talent to work with, that the cupboard was not empty, and we did not need to do a complete overhaul and housecleaning. Mangino said we needed to do a bit of remodeling and redecorating so to speak and make things better. Mangino has the confidence in himself and the confidence of CPR in his abilities. IMO, that is the most important thing. There was always doubt about Mess. IMO, Mess doubted himself and the whole thing eventually went from there into a downward spiral. No doubt that Rhoads had lost confidence in Mess during the season.
 

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Agree with Stormin here. We all know the O line was banged up most of the year. We also know Richardson was not even close to 100%. Do we know if Richardson will have to (or already has) undergone any off season surgery or were his injuries just multiple, but not serious?

Rochach deserves to head into spring ball #1. I do however think Richardson compares more favorably to Todd Reesing in Mangino's system. The question is did Mangino's start Reesing (with this similar skill set to Richardson) because he really liked his game or was Reesing the best he had at the time? I believe our QB situation to be far better than what Mangino's had during his tenure at KU. Mangino's appears to have more options to work with here, which gives me hope he really can do something special with our offense this year.

Reesing beat out an incumbent (Kerry Meier), who then switched positions to WR & became a big difference maker.
KU's best year, their leading rusher was a fullback who was recruited as a linebacker (Brandon McAnderson)
The best WR was a recruit they secured 2 weeks before classes started after he blew up in a HS All-star game (Marcus Henry).

The player that gives us the best chance to win will be selected. It is Mangino's way.
 
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