Media Butthurt over CPR and Lazard

[mt85]

What a bunch of thin skinned hypocrites. Media members publicly criticize the job performance of coaches, but they cry like children and act as if they are beyond reproach when a coach criticizes their performance.

They sounded like teenagers that had their keys taken away for reckless driving when they were whining about Paul making Allen off limits to the media.

I've lost respect for Murph and Andy.

 

[Mowilly]

Lots of Little Brother Syndrome in this thread. Wow.

to the contrary, never seen so much little brother coming from Iowa fan as there is this past two days. Story is not about you- go away. ISU is bigger and as successful as a department over past 24 months (hok fan plays history card about now) and it is bugging hok fan. Scream for more attention- we hear you little bro.

 

[VeloClone]

I haven't read the whole thread and (thank God) I do not listen to central Iowa sports talk. However, I think a lot of people are missing the real point of this. It isn't about the media, the fans, the coaches or any ongoing feud that anyone may think is there. This is about one person - Allen Lazard. A kid who has seen what a distraction all of the media circus has been during his senior year in high school. I'm confident that he wants his freshman year at Iowa State to be memorable in a positive way. If he thinks it will help him to adjust to being a college student and a Div I athlete to not have to deal with more media exposure than any other freshman football player on this team will have to face, more power to him.

Let's keep in mind that he committed 14 months early to put the media circus behind him and concentrate on high school. Sure he made some decisions that kept him in the public eye, but he did try for the most part to get it out of the way early.

 

[Hawkaholic]

to the contrary, never seen so much little brother coming from Iowa fan as there is this past two days. Story is not about you- go away. ISU is bigger and as successful as a department over past 24 months (hok fan plays history card about now) and it is bugging hok fan. Scream for more attention- we hear you little bro.

Pretty sure Paul brought Iowa into the discussion by being an immature loudmouth. Nanny nanny boo boo I got Allen and you didn't! Please the guy acts like the signing of Lazard means a B12 Championship is right around the corner.

He had no right to sling mud at Iowa or ND. That's what brought me here. I wanted to gauge the reaction of the ISU fanbase. I was pleasantly surprised to see quite a few Cyclone fans who actually felt the same way I did. That it was completely unnecessary for him to stoop that low.

As far as the media goes... that interview Sears did was crap. I don't see how anyone could watch it, and not feel slightly uncomfortable. Besides that interview the media is just doing their job by keeping a pulse on the situation. Lazard was certainly committed to ISU, but he left the door open by taking a visit to ND. If he was truly sick and tired of the media circus then he should not have went on that visit or he should have made it 100% clear after that visit that he was not interested in anyone but ISU. This is 2014 and he's a big time recruit. He never said anything to make people believe he was going somewhere else, but when you don't say anything to remove all doubt then the media today is going to look for a story even if there isn't one. It's just the way it is. It's a little strange for Paul to act so disrespected by it. It certainly shouldn't have been surprising.

 

[Cyclonin]

Central Iowa media is pretty awful. And I learned that after I moved.

 

[Cyrocks]

Pretty sure Paul brought Iowa into the discussion by being an immature loudmouth. Nanny nanny boo boo I got Allen and you didn't! Please the guy acts like the signing of Lazard means a B12 Championship is right around the corner.

He had no right to sling mud at Iowa or ND. That's what brought me here. I wanted to gauge the reaction of the ISU fanbase. I was pleasantly surprised to see quite a few Cyclone fans who actually felt the same way I did. That it was completely unnecessary for him to stoop that low.

As far as the media goes... that interview Sears did was crap. I don't see how anyone could watch it, and not feel slightly uncomfortable. Besides that interview the media is just doing their job by keeping a pulse on the situation. Lazard was certainly committed to ISU, but he left the door open by taking a visit to ND. If he was truly sick and tired of the media circus then he should not have went on that visit or he should have made it 100% clear after that visit that he was not interested in anyone but ISU. This is 2014 and he's a big time recruit. He never said anything to make people believe he was going somewhere else, but when you don't say anything to remove all doubt then the media today is going to look for a story even if there isn't one. It's just the way it is. It's a little strange for Paul to act so disrespected by it. It certainly shouldn't have been surprising.

Concerning Lazard's Trip to Notre Dame -- maybe he promised Notre Dame that he would take one visit over there just to shut them up. He gave his word to go over, and he did. He said before he took the trip he was a solid ISU signee, and after he took the trip he said he was a solid ISU signee. Blaming the victim -- especially an 18-year old high school student -- makes you no better to throw stones at Rhoads.

And concerning Rhoads and taking shots at ND and Iowa -- how would you know that Rhoads had no right to "stoop that low"? How do you know what Iowa or ND said to Lazard? Lazard -- and his dad -- would have told Rhoads about the contact and what was said.

And not once did I see or read any interviews challenging Pierschbacher's commitment to Iowa when Alabama offered and he took an official visit to Crimson Tide country to the extent they grilled Lazard over and over again. Pierschbacher was considered the fifth-best lineman in the country and an Iowa boy. I truly believe the local media thought that Pierschbacher was a local boy who was totally committed to Iowa, who grew up cheering for the Hawkeyes, and never challenged or dreamed that he may go else where even when Alabama entered the picture. (I had to laugh at one comment left by a guy in a story about Pierschbacher switching to Alambama -- something like come to Iowa and be a star and NFL player or go to Alabama and ride the bench for four years.)

The local media got burnt and burnt bad on Pierschbacher, and I think they spent entirely too much time on chasing Lazard because he got offers from Notre Dame and Iowa to make sure they didn't get burnt or blindsided again.

 

[LutherBlue]

I haven't read the whole thread and (thank God) I do not listen to central Iowa sports talk. However, I think a lot of people are missing the real point of this. It isn't about the media, the fans, the coaches or any ongoing feud that anyone may think is there. This is about one person - Allen Lazard. A kid who has seen what a distraction all of the media circus has been during his senior year in high school. I'm confident that he wants his freshman year at Iowa State to be memorable in a positive way. If he thinks it will help him to adjust to being a college student and a Div I athlete to not have to deal with more media exposure than any other freshman football player on this team will have to face, more power to him.

Rhoads made it about the media and about ND and Iowa when he went out of his way to rub it in their faces. I thought his comments made him look incredibly small-time and end up only putting more pressure on Lazard. As I have already said in the other thread, if you've got a problem with Bobby Elliott or Ferentz or some busy-body reporter, deal with them directly.

 

[LutherBlue]

And not once did I see or read any interviews challenging Pierschbacher's commitment to Iowa when Alabama offered and he took an official visit to Crimson Tide country to the extent they grilled Lazard over and over again. Pierschbacher was considered the fifth-best lineman in the country and an Iowa boy. I truly believe the local media thought that Pierschbacher was a local boy who was totally committed to Iowa, who grew up cheering for the Hawkeyes, and never challenged or dreamed that he may go else where even when Alabama entered the picture. (I had to laugh at one comment left by a guy in a story about Pierschbacher switching to Alambama -- something like come to Iowa and be a star and NFL player or go to Alabama and ride the bench for four years.)

The local media got burnt and burnt bad on Pierschbacher, and I think they spent entirely too much time on chasing Lazard because he got offers from Notre Dame and Iowa to make sure they didn't get burnt or blindsided again.

There was certainly coverage when Alabama got involved. "Will he or won't he?" It didn't last as long because RP flipped not long after he took his visit to Tuscaloosa and that was the end of it.

 

[cytown]

to the contrary, never seen so much little brother coming from Iowa fan as there is this past two days. Story is not about you- go away.ISU is bigger and as successful as a department over past 24 months (hok fan plays history card about now) and it is bugging hok fan. Scream for more attention- we hear you little bro.

What makes you believe ISU's athletic department is bigger? Just curious on that part. Like # of sports? Budget? Employee headcount?

 

[Cyrocks]

Rhoads made it about the media and about ND and Iowa when he went out of his way to rub it in their faces. I thought his comments made him look incredibly small-time and end up only putting more pressure on Lazard. As I have already said in the other thread, if you've got a problem with Bobby Elliott or Ferentz or some busy-body reporter, deal with them directly.

I can't say I disagree with you on this at all, LutherBlue. I wish Rhoads would have handled it differently. I am sure in the years to come Rhoads will have learned from this and will handle it better next time.

At the same time, maybe after getting Lazard's LOI signed and delivered, the pressure was finally off. Maybe you are too young to know what happens when you take suddenly take the lid off a pressure cooker when it has reached full boil. What happens? The contents in the pressure cooker explodes all over the place.

That's how I see Rhoads' press conference. For weeks and weeks he had to listen to interviews, blogs and local talk show hosts questioning why Lazard would commit to ISU over Notre Dame and Iowa, and why if he was so committed did he take a trip to Notre Dame, and a 3-8 season is surely enough to sway Lazard from going to ISU. He exploded, and not in a good way like you said.

But I will give him a pass on this -- especially since I was sick of hearing and reading articles challenging Lazard's commitment to ISU these past couple of months.

 

[Cyrocks]

There was certainly coverage when Alabama got involved. "Will he or won't he?" It didn't last as long because RP flipped not long after he took his visit to Tuscaloosa and that was the end of it.

Really? Not that I don't believe you, but I didn't see one interview WITH Pierschbacher with a reporter asking over and over again, "So how committed are you to Iowa?" All I saw was one article in the Register saying Alabama is now in the mix -- no quotes from Pierschbacher about what is "the percentage of his commitment to Iowa"

 

[ILiftWithRoyce]

Iowa Nice Guy was on the Lazer1033 morning show today and he made it a point to rub it in everyone's face that Lazard stuck with ISU. It was pretty funny. Then he noted how blown out of proportion all the media crap yesterday about CPR's press conference was. Then he talked about having a shirtless jousting match with Vladamir Putin.

 

[isu81]

Really? Not that I don't believe you, but I didn't see one interview WITH Pierschbacher with a reporter asking over and over again, "So how committed are you to Iowa?" All I saw was one article in the Register saying Alabama is now in the mix -- no quotes from Pierschbacher about what is "the percentage of his commitment to Iowa"

Hate to defend John Sears/Keith Murphy here, but on Keith and Andy, Murphy said that Sears and Allen had agreed to an interview where he asked the question as many different ways as he could to help remove all doubt. Allen is laughing as he continues to answer the questions. Then Allen tweeted out the interview right after. Murphy said that he sees how people, now and without that context, could think it was harassing and putting down Iowa State.

Don't know if that is simply covering his *** now, but that's how he explained it.

 

[KidSilverhair]

Reading through this thread - have you guys actually read/heard what CPR said? Or are you all (over)reacting to the media response? I see posters using terms like "slinging mud;" "exploded;" "stooping so low;" "immature loudmouth." How do you get that from this?

With that in mind it is with great excitement that I announce the class of 2014 here at Iowa State. That is Allen Lazard’s national letter of intent. Let me talk about Allen Lazard a little bit before I get to the rest of the class. Mature, high character, integrity, accountable, trustworthy, true to his word of 14-months. Fourteen months. Allen Lazard sent in his official letter of intent today. He’s not going to a school in northern Indiana. Boy, they wasted a lot of time and money. He’s not going to another school in this state, who feverishly called him about a half a dozen times in the past week. Much to the dismay of people in this room who have wasted a lot of space and time challenging his word of commitment. He is going right here to Iowa State University. And true to his word, he will become the second top-rated player in the state, two years in a row, to become a Cyclone, and I’m very thrilled with Allen Lazard joining this program. As a bonus to Allen, I’m going to keep him off limits to the media for his freshman year. I think he’s earned that after what he’s been through the last 14 months.

The bolded part could be construed as calling out John Sears specifically and the central Iowa press in general - and they deserve that. The comments about Notre Dame and Iowa are nothing but stating facts. Notre Dame did spend time and money on recruiting Lazard. Iowa apparently did call Lazard in the week leading up to signing day. I don't read any of that as being "immature" or "exploding" or "slinging mud." He won the recruiting battle for a highly prized high schooler against a traditional national power and an in-state rival. I think he has the right to use a couple of sentences to crow about it.

I think the media response to what CPR said is supplying a feedback loop that intensifies the reactions among some of our posters - particularly our esteemed Hawk brethren, whose opinions of CPR don't matter one little bit anyway.

 

[carvers4math]

I can't remember for sure, but was it Lazard that the Hoks made some silly poster or something including him in it? Or was that Campos?

 

[casey1973]

For the record I tuned in once again for all of 5 minutes to the hawk and nebraska lovers just to remind myself why I DON"T listen to kxno. I suspect there was more to this than meets the eye and CPR had had enough. I support him 110% and a big shout out to Allen Lazard on the way he has handled this.

 

[Cyrocks]

Hate to defend John Sears/Keith Murphy here, but on Keith and Andy, Murphy said that Sears and Allen had agreed to an interview where he asked the question as many different ways as he could to help remove all doubt. Allen is laughing as he continues to answer the questions. Then Allen tweeted out the interview right after. Murphy said that he sees how people, now and without that context, could think it was harassing and putting down Iowa State.

Don't know if that is simply covering his *** now, but that's how he explained it.

Hmmm, then why keep Rhoads in the dark about the interview? Let him in on it so he would see it and laugh as well instead of keeping him in the dark, letting him watch the interview and do a simmering boil until he boiled over. Sounds to me that is cruel way of doing things.

Not buying it. Sorry.

 

[KidSilverhair]

One more thing: lots of speculation about Rhoads having a problem with Elliott or Ferentz or "underhanded/negative" recruiting of Lazard. How do you get that from

He’s not going to a school in northern Indiana. Boy, they wasted a lot of time and money. He’s not going to another school in this state, who feverishly called him about a half a dozen times in the past week.

?

You're really stretching to read between the line to get that specific out of this statement. It's just that: speculation. But it says more about the mindset of the speculator than it does about CPR.

 

[jkclone]

Hate to defend John Sears/Keith Murphy here, but on Keith and Andy, Murphy said that Sears and Allen had agreed to an interview where he asked the question as many different ways as he could to help remove all doubt. Allen is laughing as he continues to answer the questions. Then Allen tweeted out the interview right after. Murphy said that he sees how people, now and without that context, could think it was harassing and putting down Iowa State.

Don't know if that is simply covering his *** now, but that's how he explained it.

It would have been one thing if it was a couple of times that he asked. He would not stop. I kind of get it if Allen specifically said keep asking, but I don't think he did. Theres a difference between removing all doubt and refusing to accept the answer.

I mean like I said earlier it was clear to anyone who objectively looked at it that he was going to Iowa State long before this interview.

 

[ImJustKCClone]

Hate to defend John Sears/Keith Murphy here, but on Keith and Andy, Murphy said that Sears and Allen had agreed to an interview where he asked the question as many different ways as he could to help remove all doubt. Allen is laughing as he continues to answer the questions. Then Allen tweeted out the interview right after. Murphy said that he sees how people, now and without that context, could think it was harassing and putting down Iowa State.

Don't know if that is simply covering his *** now, but that's how he explained it.

I might have bought that, IF they hadn't used the most blatantly partisan Hawkeye fan on the staff to do the interview. That was a major error in judgement if the intent was to mock all of the repetitive questions Lazard had been fielding.

Yes, I recognize that they have assigned him to the ISU beat... but until he can do a better job of masking his loyalties, I'd say that's another error in judgement.