Since the Big 12 became a conference, the Big 10 and the Big 12 have the same number of national championships. 1.
Big XII vs. Big 10
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Since the Big 12 became a conference, the Big 10 and the Big 12 have the same number of national championships. 1.
Ya well they continually get teams into the Elite 8 and Final Four. Besides KU the B12 normally has no one make it out of the Sweet 16. Baylor is by far the next best B12 tourney team which says a lot about the B12
Six different Big Ten schools have reached the Final Four since the turn of the century. Three Big 12 teams have accomplished that. The Big Ten also holds an 11-7 FF edge in that time, with Kansas and MSU both having 5 appearances.
Look back. In the last decade Baylor has been to two Elite 8's and at least one Sweet 16. I think that's better than any other B12 team as far as I can recall.
Texas has done the same in the last decade. OU, OSU have had for more tourney success than Baylor since 2000.
What school, besides Kansas, has been better in the tourney than Baylor over the last 10 years? K-State? No (1 trip to the SS/EE). ISU? Nope (1 SS). Missouri? Nope (1 SS/EE). Texas A&M? Nope (1 SS). Texas Tech? No (1 SS). Nebraska? No. Oklahoma State? No (1 SS/EE/FF). Oklahoma? Nope (1 SS/EE). Colorado? No way (zilch).
Texas is even with Baylor, with both school earning a pair of Elite Eight berths and another Sweet Sixteen.
The 18-1 New England Patriots lost the 2008 Super Bowl. Therefore, they were no better than the 1-15 Dolphins.
There are varying degrees of coming up short. The Big Ten has been better in the tourney than the Big 12 over the last 15 years, even if they have the same number of titles.
First of all, the guy said that Baylor was BY FAR the next best Big 2 tourney team. Never said over the past 10 years. The Big 12 has had far more tourney success than what Baylor has shown.
The Big 10 has won more games in the tourney sure, but again, the ultimate goal is to win the NC, and in that sense, they are equal. The Big 10 has the better teams, not arguing that. But if the Big 12 and Big 10 played a full round robin against each other this year, the Big 12 has the better record.
Which is overly simplistic when determining which conference has been better in the tourney over any length of time.
Saying the '07 Pats were no better than the '07 Dolphins because New England lost the Super Bowl is simple, too. Doesn't make it accurate.
Since 2000, five different B1G teams have played for the national championship. The last time a Big 12/Big 8 team NOT named Kansas has played for the national championship was 1988.
But go ahead telling yourself that the Big 12 has been as good if it makes you feel better. I'd take solace in the fact that ISU > Iowa and about 2/3 of the B1G this year, but whatever.
Great season.
But go ahead telling yourself that the Big 12 has been as good if it makes you feel better. I'd take solace in the fact that ISU > Iowa and about 2/3 of the B1G this year, but whatever.
Great season.
We had a great season I don't know why there are ISU fans that want to keep arguing on this topic. The big 12 had a better body of work during the regular season and the big ten is having a better postseason. If ISU and Kansas were both healthy I think they both would have made the elite 8 at minimum. Even with that the big 10 still would have more teams in the elite 8. You can make an argument for both sides.
