Question regarding DSM police

Me State

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Turns out it's not going to be a big deal. I apparently had gotten rear-ended and the person who was behind me had tried to report it, so it was initially reported as a hit and run. When the cop told me that, I looked at my bumper again and there was a very minor scuff on the back. I told him that I was so focused on avoiding the potential accident that I didn't even feel the bump from behind. I knew I'd successfully avoided hitting the guy in front of me and so I thought everything was fine and kept going. The "damage" to my car isn't worth replacing a back bumper (no dents or cracks, just a scuff), so I won't be sticking it to her on that. Just going to exchange insurance info with her, since she did give hers to a beat cop in the report.

Crisis averted. I'm not going to prison. So you guys are just going to have to put up with me for awhile longer.

So you were honest with the police and the situation was resolved to everyone's satisfaction?

Unpossible! Cops are bad and only want to throw innocent people in jail!

(Or so I've heard...)

Glad my "bad" legal advice worked for you.
 

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So you were honest with the police and the situation was resolved to everyone's satisfaction?

Unpossible! Cops are bad and only want to throw innocent people in jail!

(Or so I've heard...)

Glad my "bad" legal advice worked for you.

asking what they wanted and talking to them are different things.

generally speaking .... when an officer is asking you questions ... be mindful of what you say ... if anything.
 

Me State

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asking what they wanted and talking to them are different things.

generally speaking .... when an officer is asking you questions ... be mindful of what you say ... if anything.

I would say that is great advice for life in general.
 

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[video=youtube;6wXkI4t7nuc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc[/video]
 

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Some people are super hardcore about asserting their rights no matter the situation. This video cracks me up. This guy has huge juevos, for pulling this off. I could never do that.

[video=youtube;gwYBshAScmE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwYBshAScmE[/video]
 

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Some people are super hardcore about asserting their rights no matter the situation. This video cracks me up. This guy has huge juevos, for pulling this off. I could never do that.

[video=youtube;gwYBshAScmE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwYBshAScmE[/video]

guy gets nervous... understandably.

But I think its a great video .... knowledge is power, exercising your rights is perfectly okay.
 

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guy gets nervous... understandably.

But I think its a great video .... knowledge is power, exercising your rights is perfectly okay.

Didn't he get a ticket? Maybe he was going to get one anyway, but all I saw there was him asking for the officer to give him the maximum punishment allowed.
 

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Turns out it's not going to be a big deal. I apparently had gotten rear-ended and the person who was behind me had tried to report it, so it was initially reported as a hit and run. When the cop told me that, I looked at my bumper again and there was a very minor scuff on the back. I told him that I was so focused on avoiding the potential accident that I didn't even feel the bump from behind. I knew I'd successfully avoided hitting the guy in front of me and so I thought everything was fine and kept going. The "damage" to my car isn't worth replacing a back bumper (no dents or cracks, just a scuff), so I won't be sticking it to her on that. Just going to exchange insurance info with her, since she did give hers to a beat cop in the report.

Crisis averted. I'm not going to prison. So you guys are just going to have to put up with me for awhile longer.

Do NOT give her your insurance information! There's zero reason to do so! She rear-ended you! Regardless of the circumstances she's liable for that (Failure to Maintain Control/Safe Stopping Distance). You should not share your insurance info as there's no reason that she needs it.
 

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Some people are super hardcore about asserting their rights no matter the situation. This video cracks me up. This guy has huge juevos, for pulling this off. I could never do that.

[video=youtube;gwYBshAScmE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwYBshAScmE[/video]

What a jackwagon; and then some people wonder why police treat them like crap. The dude was a complete *** and took what could have been a simple traffic stop and possibly just a warning into a long ordeal for both the officer and himself. Sure you need to protect your rights. A police officer needs to protect him/herself at every stop as well.

I'm no apologist. I recognize that there are some bad cops out there. I also recognize that there are a lot of good cops out there who are just trying to do the right thing. If you are like this guy you probably have nothing but bad experiences with cops because you create bad experiences.
 

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What a jackwagon; and then some people wonder why police treat them like crap. The dude was a complete *** and took what could have been a simple traffic stop and possibly just a warning into a long ordeal for both the officer and himself. Sure you need to protect your rights. A police officer needs to protect him/herself at every stop as well.

I'm no apologist. I recognize that there are some bad cops out there. I also recognize that there are a lot of good cops out there who are just trying to do the right thing. If you are like this guy you probably have nothing but bad experiences with cops because you create bad experiences.


Yup. Ended up going to court and paying the full price if you read the description in the video.
 

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What a jackwagon; and then some people wonder why police treat them like crap. The dude was a complete *** and took what could have been a simple traffic stop and possibly just a warning into a long ordeal for both the officer and himself. Sure you need to protect your rights. A police officer needs to protect him/herself at every stop as well.

I'm no apologist. I recognize that there are some bad cops out there. I also recognize that there are a lot of good cops out there who are just trying to do the right thing. If you are like this guy you probably have nothing but bad experiences with cops because you create bad experiences.

I've never personally had a bad experience with a cop, just heard a ton of stories out there about them.
 

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Do NOT give her your insurance information! There's zero reason to do so! She rear-ended you! Regardless of the circumstances she's liable for that (Failure to Maintain Control/Safe Stopping Distance). You should not share your insurance info as there's no reason that she needs it.

Technically, I gave my policy number and agent number to the cop, not the other driver.
 

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What a jackwagon; and then some people wonder why police treat them like crap. The dude was a complete *** and took what could have been a simple traffic stop and possibly just a warning into a long ordeal for both the officer and himself. Sure you need to protect your rights. A police officer needs to protect him/herself at every stop as well.

I'm no apologist. I recognize that there are some bad cops out there. I also recognize that there are a lot of good cops out there who are just trying to do the right thing. If you are like this guy you probably have nothing but bad experiences with cops because you create bad experiences.
I suppose that the cop knew this would be difficult when he stood there waiting for the guy to set up the recording.
 

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I can almost guarantee the dmpd did not show up to an accident in under 10 min. I was involved in a hit and run last year 4 blocks from the police station and it took longer than 30 min before they arrived.

It also took over 2 months to get it worked out even though a witness followed the runner and got their license plate and the description of the driver. The owner fixed the car before taking to the police and then denied driving in the area. They didn't press charges bc they needed the owner to admit what happened and that was never going to happen.

The best way to get the DSM PD to show up quickly? Have one of them in unmarked car run into you. There was a marked car there in under 90 seconds. lol
 

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What a jackwagon; and then some people wonder why police treat them like crap. The dude was a complete *** and took what could have been a simple traffic stop and possibly just a warning into a long ordeal for both the officer and himself. Sure you need to protect your rights. A police officer needs to protect him/herself at every stop as well.

I'm no apologist. I recognize that there are some bad cops out there. I also recognize that there are a lot of good cops out there who are just trying to do the right thing. If you are like this guy you probably have nothing but bad experiences with cops because you create bad experiences.

Who is in control in a situation like the video displayed?
 

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Didn't he get a ticket? Maybe he was going to get one anyway, but all I saw there was him asking for the officer to give him the maximum punishment allowed.

Yup. Ended up going to court and paying the full price if you read the description in the video.

admitting guilt/paying the fine, doesn't mean you allow more to happen than is required. The officer was held in check with all he needed to do in issuing a ticket. The 'perp' made sure nothing past the minimum took place and kept his privacy intact.

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Technically, I gave my policy number and agent number to the cop, not the other driver.

Makes sense. You probably should have asked "why" he needed it, unless it was only to prove that your insurance is valid. Giving another driver your insurance information in a circumstance such as this gives them the opportunity to twist the story in their favor and claim that you were responsible. I have an old boss who had a similar situation like yours and the other driver claimed that he reversed his car and caused the damage to the front of the other person's car. In an accident where it is "shared" responsibility you should exchange insurance information, but one such as yours is a bit different.
 

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admitting guilt/paying the fine, doesn't mean you allow more to happen than is required. The officer was held in check with all he needed to do in issuing a ticket. The 'perp' made sure nothing past the minimum took place and kept his privacy intact.

-keep

He kept his privacy intact....okay then.
 

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Turns out it's not going to be a big deal. I apparently had gotten rear-ended and the person who was behind me had tried to report it, so it was initially reported as a hit and run. When the cop told me that, I looked at my bumper again and there was a very minor scuff on the back. I told him that I was so focused on avoiding the potential accident that I didn't even feel the bump from behind. I knew I'd successfully avoided hitting the guy in front of me and so I thought everything was fine and kept going. The "damage" to my car isn't worth replacing a back bumper (no dents or cracks, just a scuff), so I won't be sticking it to her on that. Just going to exchange insurance info with her, since she did give hers to a beat cop in the report.

Crisis averted. I'm not going to prison. So you guys are just going to have to put up with me for awhile longer.


So, you told the officer that you swerved to avoid an accident . . . which indicates you may have been driving too fast for conditions and may have caused the vehicle behind you to hit you . . . you admitted that you knew there was an incident and you kept going . . . which may indicate that you knowingly left the scene of an accident . . . and you provided insurance information with the other driver . . . which may indicate what sort of coverage you have and whether she should go after you.

I don't think we have heard the end of this story. And I don't think you should have admitted anything to the officer or the other driver.
 

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