New Schedule - Season Prediction Time!!!

twocoach

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I love the confidence of the OP, but I will be surprised if we go undefeated in the non-conference again. This is still college basketball, and upsets do happen. We still don't know how long Thomas or Nader will be suspended... maybe we lose a game to Alabama? Maybe Arkansas comes to Hilton and shocks us? I do think that we have a good enough team to go 12-0, but I'm just saying that things happen. It takes a little luck.
I think the only danger game in that non-con schedule is @Iowa. I get that they are the rival that people blindly see as inferior but that is by far the hardest non-con game ISU plays next year and it's not close. The rest of the non-con schedule should be double digit wins for ISU.
 

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20-0 is a legitimate possibility, and it would probably be a #1 ranking, as long as no one else was having that crazy run at the same time. #1 ISU vs. #2 Kansas on Gameday would be OK, if you're into highly-charged big game atmospheres, and believe that Kansas must be destroyed. I still think it's 5 losses overall, which is an excellent season, and then some kind of wild ride in the Tournament.
Kansas won't be #2 heading into that game. They are going to lose to Kentucky and then have another tough game against Top 10 Florida in the non-con.
 

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i think mckay is a huge game changer for us. i think we won't be as lucky in the non conf this year. i think we'll have a better record in conference play than last year. 10-2 non conf, 13-5 conf. 4 seed or better in the tourney.
 

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11-1 in non-con with only loss @Iowa. 13-5 in Big 12 with losses vs. Kansas, @Kansas, @Texas, @Oklahoma and @K-State.
 

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11-1 in non-con with only loss @Iowa. 13-5 in Big 12 with losses vs. Kansas, @Kansas, @Texas, @Oklahoma and @K-State.
Were not losing to KU twice this year. Also, could lose at Iowa but don't really see it. We would have to play equally as bad as 2 years ago and I don't know if that happens again. That was a bit flukey.
 

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11-1 in non-con with only loss @Iowa. 13-5 in Big 12 with losses vs. Kansas, @Kansas, @Texas, @Oklahoma and @K-State.

I just don't "trust" Iowa's ability to beat teams with a pulse, so I expect to break their will down the stretch.

I see us splitting with Kansas in two hotly contested games that leave heart attack victims in their wake, but lose to someone like WVU/Texas Tech on the road in on of those games that makes fans scream "WHAT?"
Then somebody will post about the need to fire Fred, and the rest of us will snap out of it in order to flame that fool.
 

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Georgia State without 3 rotation players is a trap game.
 

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Were not losing to KU twice this year. Also, could lose at Iowa but don't really see it. We would have to play equally as bad as 2 years ago and I don't know if that happens again. That was a bit flukey.
What was fluky about Iowa starting the second half with an 8-0 run and leading the rest of the game before winning by 9? It was the third loss in five games for ISU at the time so I wouldn't really see fluky as a good description. Iowa choking and losing last year @ISU was more fluky than ISU losing two years ago. Iowa is a good team this year and the game is @Iowa. It will be a very tough win if ISU can get it. By no means is it a gimme for Iowa; I just play the odds and pick most teams to lose on the road against good teams.
 

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Georgia State without 3 rotation players is a trap game.
I am very interested to see Ga. State play ISU. They have some very good scorers on their team and will give ISU a battle if they can rebound at all. I still think ISU wins that going away but wouldn't be surprised if there are some pucker moments down the stretch that put people on edge.
 

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What was fluky about Iowa starting the second half with an 8-0 run and leading the rest of the game before winning by 9? It was the third loss in five games for ISU at the time so I wouldn't really see fluky as a good description. Iowa choking and losing last year @ISU was more fluky than ISU losing two years ago. Iowa is a good team this year and the game is @Iowa. It will be a very tough win if ISU can get it. By no means is it a gimme for Iowa; I just play the odds and pick most teams to lose on the road against good teams.

The fluky part was Will Clyburn's total disappearing act, and Korie Lucious forgetting for quite a while that he had ever played basketball before.

And I also struggle to call Iowa a good team with the way they folded like a cheap suit last year, but I know that plenty disagree with me on that.
 

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What was fluky about Iowa starting the second half with an 8-0 run and leading the rest of the game before winning by 9? It was the third loss in five games for ISU at the time so I wouldn't really see fluky as a good description. Iowa choking and losing last year @ISU was more fluky than ISU losing two years ago. Iowa is a good team this year and the game is @Iowa. It will be a very tough win if ISU can get it. By no means is it a gimme for Iowa; I just play the odds and pick most teams to lose on the road against good teams.
I would say players like Lucious, Clyburn, and Ejim totally not showing up. Most of our team looked completely disinterested. Clyburn finishing with 0 points, Ejim having 5 and nearly turning the ball over as many times as Lucious' 7 turnovers. I don't see what was flukey about Iowa blowing a lead last year against a good team. They have been doing that every game for the past 2 years at least.
 

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The fluky part was Will Clyburn's total disappearing act, and Korie Lucious forgetting for quite a while that he had ever played basketball before. And I also struggle to call Iowa a good team with the way they folded like a cheap suit last year, but I know that plenty disagree with me on that.
All valid points. Last year's end to the Iowa basketball season really was a dumpster fire that left a lot of people scratching their heads. But after watching Kansas lose to TCU a few years ago, sometimes I have to simply be OK with watching college kids completely forget how to play the game of basketball from time to time. Some may call it fluky; I just call it inevitable. Remembering my college aged years (at least what I CAN remember) it really doesn't surprise me when kids lose their minds for stretches of time.
 

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What was fluky about Iowa starting the second half with an 8-0 run and leading the rest of the game before winning by 9? It was the third loss in five games for ISU at the time so I wouldn't really see fluky as a good description. Iowa choking and losing last year @ISU was more fluky than ISU losing two years ago. Iowa is a good team this year and the game is @Iowa. It will be a very tough win if ISU can get it. By no means is it a gimme for Iowa; I just play the odds and pick most teams to lose on the road against good teams.
Why do you and a whole bunch of other people think Iowa will be a good team this year? Marble was a ridiculous scorer and was the reason Iowa would ever be able to put up 80 (which they rarely did to begin with). Now granted White had a monster of a game against us, but he's nothing great and we're bigger this season that he won't be able to have his way with us on the boards. Who is going to be Iowa's 18+ppg scorer without him? It's not like us, where we have proven talent (BDJ and Morris's progression) to come in and replace Kane and Ejim in the points category, since their bench was terrible. Iowa doesn't have a prolific scoring guard capable of replacing Marble. Jok was awful and can't stop drinking and driving a moped and getting caught for it, and Clemmons is a pass-first guy. Gessell is not that good and can't even hit a free throw in the final minutes of an important game. I thought Iowa was only overrated in football, but based on what a lot of people have been saying about last year and this year, they're just as overrated in basketball as well. Even with this being in Iowa City, I still don't think it's going to be that close of a game. ISU by 12.
 

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Why do you and a whole bunch of other people think Iowa will be a good team this year? Marble was a ridiculous scorer and was the reason Iowa would ever be able to put up 80 (which they rarely did to begin with). Now granted White had a monster of a game against us, but he's nothing great and we're bigger this season that he won't be able to have his way with us on the boards. Who is going to be Iowa's 18+ppg scorer without him? It's not like us, where we have proven talent (BDJ and Morris's progression) to come in and replace Kane and Ejim in the points category, since their bench was terrible. Iowa doesn't have a prolific scoring guard capable of replacing Marble. Jok was awful and can't stop drinking and driving a moped and getting caught for it, and Clemmons is a pass-first guy. Gessell is not that good and can't even hit a free throw in the final minutes of an important game. I thought Iowa was only overrated in football, but based on what a lot of people have been saying about last year and this year, they're just as overrated in basketball as well. Even with this being in Iowa City, I still don't think it's going to be that close of a game. ISU by 12.
They lose Marble; ISU loses Ejim and Kane. Is ISU the only team that can successfully replace a good player? As for Jok, has Nader's suspension length been announced yet? Look, I wouldn't be surprised to see ISU win that game at all. I think ISU is the more talented team but a road game against a good team is not always won by the most talented team. ISU was more talented than most of the teams they lost to on the road last year.
 

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I would say players like Lucious, Clyburn, and Ejim totally not showing up. Most of our team looked completely disinterested. Clyburn finishing with 0 points, Ejim having 5 and nearly turning the ball over as many times as Lucious' 7 turnovers. I don't see what was flukey about Iowa blowing a lead last year against a good team. They have been doing that every game for the past 2 years at least.

And Georges Niang then is nothing compared to Georges Niang now.
 

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They lose Marble; ISU loses Ejim and Kane. Is ISU the only team that can successfully replace a good player? As for Jok, has Nader's suspension length been announced yet? Look, I wouldn't be surprised to see ISU win that game at all. I think ISU is the more talented team but a road game against a good team is not always won by the most talented team. ISU was more talented than most of the teams they lost to on the road last year.
Look at who Iowa is bringing in. They have nobody to come even close to replacing Marbles production. Also, it isn't going to bode well for Iowa if Aaron White is going to be thrown into a main scoring roll. Also, no way Nader is suspended by game 8 or 9 into the season. He will be suspended 3 games tops along with Thomas.
 

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Question for ISU fans, do you like the non con schedule or would you like to see more high profile games?

I could see both sides because a softer non con gives the new guys a chance to gel before getting to Big 12 play.
Looks like we never leave the state till 10 Jan.
 

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There is entirely too much Iowa discussion in this thread.

We have a great shot to be really good once again. Hopefully we can finish in the top 3 of the Big 12 and avoid any WTF road losses. It'd be great to find a way to pick up a win or two on the road against the other marquee teams in the conference -- @ KU, @ UT, @ OU, @ KSU, @ OSU.

Hopefully we'll have a chance to defend the Big 12 tournament title and get a nice seed in the dance, preferably somewhere other than our opponent's backyard, for a change.

Worth noting that if we go dancing again this year, it will the fourth year in a row, which would be a school record.