Basketball and football game watches with you guys in NYC made me want to take crazy pills you all were so boring. Glad you're having fun at the expense of another.
The Forgotten Years: The History of Wayne Morgan
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Basketball and football game watches with you guys in NYC made me want to take crazy pills you all were so boring. Glad you're having fun at the expense of another.
Wayne was nice to a fault. He is guilty of only one thing....being THE guy who followed a legend.
Wow, just wow. I guess you forget about the utter futility and crap that followed in LE's last two years. His drinking and failure to capitalize on the early success of his Big 12 left a huge stain on the program. Natty Light made us the laughing stock of the college basketball nation.
1 Post season. Please stop calling NIT post season. Dang, we rip on EIU for being proud of their NIT run.
WM's tenure had a couple nice wins but overall it was a train wreck and underproduced considerably. Many forget we had to rip off 7 wins in a row to even make the dance because prior to that we weren't even in consideration when at the start of the season we were picked to go and knew we had the talent to go.
LE, WM and McD all contributed to the dark period of ISU basketball. Any bright spot after the Big 12 tourney loss to Baylor is grasping at straws and by no means an acceptable measure of what 'success' look like for ISU Bball.
Hoiberg's tenure is what success and respect from the national stage looks like. This is a program to be proud of. This is a program that now inspires fear in opponents again. Hilton Magic once again is alive.
Never! Never during the time after LE's loss to Baylor did we have anything that came with within sniffing distance of today's program stature. LE, WM and McD all sucked for varying reasons and failed to do anything for our program. To argue otherwise is just trying to decide which stinks more between cat, dog and chicken poo.
Never! Never during the time after LE's loss to Baylor did we have anything that came with within sniffing distance of today's program stature. LE, WM and McD all sucked for varying reasons and failed to do anything for our program. To argue otherwise is just trying to decide which stinks more between cat, dog and chicken poo.
You seem pretty angry. I suggest not reading this thread anymore and just relaxing. It is Friday afternoon, after all.
Fine. But here you go...
From a poster named Baller1, from a thread discussing the history of Cyclone Fanatic...
i remember wayne's last season we were heading down the toilet so i typed in firewaynemorgan.com to see what would be there and it sent me here. i have been here ever since.
I honestly don't get what the gripe of the bolded part is here. Am I supposed to be angry that we won 7 games in a row, including a victory at Allen Field House, and made it to the NCAA tournament?
In BigBake world, I guess so. In his world apparently winning seasons, post season wins, huge wins over ranked teams including at KU, and fun and run basketball is equivalent to no winning seasons, no post season appearances and no fun basketball (as long as it's WM vs. GMac). Don't try to figure it out.
Agree Wayne's last season was his worst, but he was hurting for a big man since Taggart got some illness and missed more than a month of the season, and never gained the weight back. We still had a winning season and likely would have hosted an NIT game had JP tried to get one. But with Stinson, Blaylock, Clark and Taggart forming the nucleus, the next year was shaping up real nice until the rug was pulled out.
True story, this site began as firewaynemorgan.com by, I believe his name was Jeremy Lind
Let it go Bake. They both didn't suck and you know it. Suck isn't missing the post season one time.......it's never sniffing it. Suck isn't losing in the NIT final four or losing in the dance to the eventual National Champ in the round of 32.....suck is Drake beating us by 35, South Dakota State beating us at Hilton, beating one ranked conference team during your tenure, admitting you underestimated what type of player to recruit and continually blaming the previous coach for your failures. Suck isn't laughing all the way to the bank just for being a nice Iowa boy, suck is getting blind sided by a bunch of people who don't appreciate how you kept their sinking boat above water.
Eustachy inherited some great players and he was a nice recruiter, so his job was easier than, say, McDermott or Hoiberg. Morgan was a great recruiter and a poor coach. I remember hearing stories of practices back in those days in which the players just messed around for a couple of hours then went home. When McDermott took over, he lost Stinson and Blalock, who would have been a great backcourt duo as seniors, maybe the best backcourt in the country. That team could have been good, but then again, same with the Brackins/Garrett teams McDermott had.
I think we can all agree that Eustachy/Morgan/McDermott didn't exactly have the best careers at Iowa State, but they all gave us fun moments (maybe not McDermott so much). I for one will never forget Stinson's shot to beat KU in Allen Fieldhouse or Stinson's triple double against Colorado. No, Wayne Morgan was not a great coach, but I don't understand the hate he's receiving on here.
I think we can all agree that Eustachy/Morgan/McDermott didn't exactly have the best careers at Iowa State, but they all gave us fun moments (maybe not McDermott so much). I for one will never forget Stinson's shot to beat KU in Allen Fieldhouse or Stinson's triple double against Colorado. No, Wayne Morgan was not a great coach, but I don't understand the hate he's receiving on here.
WTH....are you guys that wasted from the football turd slinging that you have to go trolling back into the dark decade and start a fight about basketball even though we're doing well now? Y'all MF'ers is twisted.
I'll also always remember some of those Homan to Blaylock to Clark (for the thunderslam) fast breaks that brought the house down. I think Rashon would have soared had Morgan stayed (or obviously under Fred) where he could have used his speed. He showed a glimpse of how great he could have been when he put up about 30 at Drake his sophomore year and we blew Drake off the court.
The easiest way to sum up Wayne Morgan's career at Iowa State was that he took a job that was national punchline, won some games, and made us competitive.
ANYONE that tries to knock what he did here, especially considering what had happened the previous 2 years with the program is doing it out of spite and pettiness.
ANYONE that tries to knock what he did here, especially considering what had happened the previous 2 years with the program is doing it out of spite and pettiness.
I was in school when Morgan was our coach. I loved that team. LOVED them. I even loved Morgan as a coach, our defense was not to be messed with.
BUT on more than one occasion I was unlucky enough to be around WM at Keepers, Reimans etc. He was an avid guitar player/collector. He would come into the store and treat the help like trash, expected all the KIDS trying out the amps/guitars to be quiet and pay attention to him. When he didn't get his way he made a scene. I was a very active musician back then, and knew the store workers pretty well, who didn't care for him much besides the size of his wallet. Not only that he could get out of hand with the press. Could be just a couple of bad coincidences, but the guy didn't come across as very personable in my experience.
Also, I encourage you to stand up for people to be honest, but I don't appreciate being lopped in with the knuckle draggers on this site. I'm not trying to libel anyone, just trying to give an accurate depiction of my recollection.
I don't believe any Morgan haters are defending GMacs tenure at Iowa state...******.
Here is part 2 of the Wayne Morgan series covering the 2003-04 season, including John Neal helping defeat Iowa at home, the phantom 3 at Kansas and Boddicker's missing at the free throw line to give ISU the win at home.
http://clonesconfidential.com/2014/...yne-morgan-iowa-state-mens-basketball-part-2/
http://clonesconfidential.com/2014/...yne-morgan-iowa-state-mens-basketball-part-2/
