This team is one dimensional. If shots aren't falling, trouble. Not really good at much else; defense, rebounds.
*** Postgame IOWA STATE vs Texas Tech Game(day) Thread ***
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I'm not overly worried about the season as a whole, but I have serious doubts to win the conference unless our conference mates step up to KU. That being said I think some interesting stats were:
10 assists to 10 turnovers
-10 TOs is not too bad
-10 assists is disappointing. Now usually when we have a low assist total it's because of poor shooting. But we shot 43% and that was on 27 shots. That is not ISU basketball.
-7 steals and 3 blocks, tells me that we were active on D.
-We scored 48 points in the 2nd half.
It really comes down to a 30% 3 pt shooting team shooting 11 3 ptrs for 46%.
Fred plays statistics, and he chose to stack the inside and let them get the 3s early. They had 6 3s by guys with avg of 30% or less. Usually that will work out.
Since the WVU game went so long I obviously didn't get to see the d in the first. (And I was coaching my son's team so I couldn't listen either) But I saw a lot of hustle in the second half to close out on those shooters. Hell, they didn't hit a fg in the last 8 minutes. But they did hit 18 FTs.
I guess my summary? **** happens.
10 assists to 10 turnovers
-10 TOs is not too bad
-10 assists is disappointing. Now usually when we have a low assist total it's because of poor shooting. But we shot 43% and that was on 27 shots. That is not ISU basketball.
-7 steals and 3 blocks, tells me that we were active on D.
-We scored 48 points in the 2nd half.
It really comes down to a 30% 3 pt shooting team shooting 11 3 ptrs for 46%.
Fred plays statistics, and he chose to stack the inside and let them get the 3s early. They had 6 3s by guys with avg of 30% or less. Usually that will work out.
Since the WVU game went so long I obviously didn't get to see the d in the first. (And I was coaching my son's team so I couldn't listen either) But I saw a lot of hustle in the second half to close out on those shooters. Hell, they didn't hit a fg in the last 8 minutes. But they did hit 18 FTs.
I guess my summary? **** happens.
The bolded part is where I stopped reading your post. You're in complete and utter denial if you think we have a chance to win the conference. And it's not just me being upset about the loss. We lost to a team that none of the other contenders will lose to, and that puts us down one. Factor that in with KU winning @ Texas and Baylor. It's over. The best we can hope for is 2nd.
What are the numbers in the lotto? If it makes you feel better to write it off and be surprised, that's your choice. I never give up, and I see that this team won't either.
We maybe have a 5% chance of winning it. Being generous. KU would have to collapse, which is the exact opposite trajectory that they are currently going.
You said 5% chance, I said I have serious doubts. Not sure we're saying anything much different...
Agree for the most part. If ISU runs the table, that's another story (an unlikely story).
Winning the league will require at least one stumble by KU, possibly two (and almost surely has to involve ISU sweeping the series). Entered the day with a shot to lead the league outright, if Texas could beat KU at home and ISU defeats winless TT. Neither happened.
KU keeps winning titles by beating contenders (at home and occasionally away from home) and not requiring as much "help" as the contenders.
The 5% is more of a number that I just made up out of thin air, because mathematically speaking of course we "have a chance". Just like all of those bogus threads that we got during football season, "if we win 5 out of the last 6" we can go to a bowl game. Reality says 0% chance. Curious what % kenpom gives us.
..actually ISU made their little run at the end of the 1st half when I got the bartender to switch it to ESPN News, so it can't be that.
I got her to switch it back to ESPNU for the 2nd half, and it was fail from there.
My bad.
Then what you're saying is you expected Iowa State to just not show up?! I'm hoping a light bulb kicks in with this team on the road...I find it unfathomable that they use the excuse...took the team for granted. Heard that now 3 times. And they've even said they would learn from it. Apparently they haven't or Tech is better than anticipated and we're not putting players out there good enough to beat a Texas Tech team on the road...So, Fred has given them their chance "to learn" without destroying minutes...that's over. Time for the Hoiberg hammer to come down. He said he was dismayed that the players didn't seem more angry at what Tech was doing to them...well Fred didnt seem to angry from an outward appearence either. I think its great that the team keeps their composure like Fred does...but you gotta compete...Have that killer instinct that last years team had. They dont have it. George tries to force it but then he presses too much it looks like. I think most people were hoping BDJ would replace Kanes position...but who replaces his killer instinct? Hope they can figure it out.
Yup...blue bloods just know how to win on the road. They have "it"...whatever "it" is.
I agree with you completely, but this is beyond winning on the road. This is just plain and simple a game that should have been won, no matter where it was played. This is a game Blue bloods lose once a decade. We find a way to still do it once or twice a year.
I missed the whole 1st half as I had to dvr the game; who was 'defending' on all those made 3's in the 1st half?
Isu shot 66% on 2's; we should probably keep chucking 3's. Also, I about lost it on Thomas' stupid reach in foul as the shot clock wound down.
Isu shot 66% on 2's; we should probably keep chucking 3's. Also, I about lost it on Thomas' stupid reach in foul as the shot clock wound down.
Regardless of talent, we'll never win a big 12 regular season title unless the defensive mindset changes. You can't just count on outshooting teams on the road (like we do every year). No sugarcoating today. Pathetic effort, and it pry costed us any shot we had at being big 12 champs... Another 'wake-up call' I guess.
NO we don't. Since Hoiberg has turned things around he has lost maybe 3 really, really bad games. That's it.
Losing at West Virginia, Oklahoma, and Texas last year were NOT BAD LOSSES.
BDJ was trying to guard Gotcher. Instead of chasing him he tried to cut the angle down and Gotcher was wide open about every time. Not sure how many times it takes to figure it out.
