Niang and 3pt Shooting Against KU

mcdrier

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Last year if I remember right, 3 pt shooting was the reason we made a game of it in the middle part of the first half and early second half. Then it went cold and with that 7 footer, they were able to defend the rim well enough to win the game. If three point shooting stayed hot, we could have won there. I think we got down early in the first half as well, made a run at them and then cooled off.

Maybe this year things will be different!
 

CloneinWDSM

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Please let him shoot the 3 KU. PLEASE


I rewatched ISU VS KU in the big 12 tourney. The domination Niang showed was amazing
 

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I don't mind Georges taking them to make them pay for backing off. I'd like to see that capped at 4-5 attempts though, unless he's hot.

Agreed. But how often has Georges taken more than 5 threes in a game this season, where he didn't make at least 40 percent? I don't think it's happened very often.
 

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Agreed. But how often has Georges taken more than 5 threes in a game this season, where he didn't make at least 40 percent? I don't think it's happened very often.


He has taken more than 5 threes three times. He went 1-6 against Maryland and Texas Tech, 3-6 against KU
 

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I think they back off at first, but if he makes a couple they won't be backing off anymore. When Niang has a lot of attempts from thee it usually means he is missing and they are letting him take those.
 

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Does the game come down to Niang mainly? It would be nice if Long can heat up, McKay be the defensive stopper, and get a few 3 ptrs off the bench from Thomas and/or Nadar.

Maybe Nadar will be that Road Dawg he earned from earlier road games! That would be nice 20 points off the bench along with double digits from all the starters!

I am feeling better and better as the day wears on. I checked the prediction section on CBSports.com and the computer picked ISU to win!
 

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Both teams have a lot of weapons so it will not come down to one of them. ISU could win despite a bad game from Niang and they could lose despite a good game from Niang. Each team will need several guys to step up and bring their A game to pull out a win. I fully expect it to be a tough battle.
 

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He has taken more than 5 threes three times. He went 1-6 against Maryland and Texas Tech, 3-6 against KU

In other words, when Niang takes a lot of threes, we lose 67 percent of the time. :p

If an oracle were to tell me that ISU will attempt 31 three-pointers tonight, I would not bet on the Cyclones. The game against TCU was our offense I've seen this year and we only attempted 11 threes (we went 5-11). I'd like Georges, and the whole team for that matter, to work the ball inside as much as possible and only take the open threes when they present themselves.
 

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The key to Fred's offense is not that we do just one thing well, but that we spread the floor and force all 5 defenders to play in space. Certainly a key in our first game win was that we outran them down the floor and got lots of easy points. Georges is effective at lots of things, but that fact the big defender has to respect all of them is why Barnes called him one of the hardest players in the league to defend. His drives off the bounce are less effective if they aren't forced to respect him on the perimter, which also makes it easier for others to drive.
 

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Niang's 0 for 9 last year at Hilton still scares me. Of course, we want shooters to shoot, but he shot us out of that game. It seems that he is being smarter this year about taking 3s.
 

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Niang is scoring more points per 3FGA (1.16) than per 2FGA (0.99), so as long as he doesn't look tired, fire away.

That is a good stat. I'm wondering how fouls drawn posting up might equal that out. Either way, the premise is that he will get more looks from three than most games and what he chooses to do and can do with those looks will be a big factor in determining a winner tonight.
 

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He has taken more than 5 threes three times. He went 1-6 against Maryland and Texas Tech, 3-6 against KU

And he was 0-5 against Maryland and 1-5 against someone else.

Niang's sweet spot is 2-4 3s a game. Yes he's had games were he's went something like 5/7 in the past, but like the blog (and myself) stated we/he is much better when he establishes himself inside.

Having Niang bomb 3s is EXACTLY what Self wants him to do. The key is to pound it inside and for Niang to recognize the double (from the perimeter) to avoid TOs. If he can do that we may just have a chance.
 

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Niang is scoring more points per 3FGA (1.16) than per 2FGA (0.99), so as long as he doesn't look tired, fire away.

That's a flawed stat, IMO. There have been very few games where Niang has given a concerted effort to really score inside. The TCU game (2nd half) was one of those and his efficiency was much better.

Starting inside could actually help both numbers. One, it gets him in rhythm and establishes the post, which in turn starts our ball movement to get our offense clicking early. The second is that he is usually taking higher quality shots after the offense has been initiated, rather than jacking up quick 3s.

Having Niang in the post also puts him in a much better position to rebound, something we are going to HAVE to do (relatively) well to win this game. We have been **** poor on the offensive boards and Niang's tendency to hang around the 3 point line is part of the reason why. When he's there we're lucky if we even have McKay or Hogue snagging boards.