Just my 0.02 for all you CF'ers. Take it for what its worth!

[Havs]

1890s history means nothing to me when I see Kansas, K-State, Oklahoma State and Baylor in BCS bowls within the last decade. Texas Tech and Missouri had big runs as well. None of those programs made excuses for being "have-nots" in this league... they just went out and built programs and reached BCS or other big bowl games.

 

[Mesaclone1]

1890s history means nothing to me when I see Kansas, K-State, Oklahoma State and Baylor in BCS bowls within the last decade. Texas Tech and Missouri had big runs as well. None of those programs made excuses for being "have-nots" in this league... they just went out and built programs and reached BCS or other big bowl games.

Huh, who knew it was so simple. You should immediately call the AD and let him know your brilliant concept for turning things around. If only HE would have thought of this years ago.

 

[Havs]

Huh, who knew it was so simple. You should immediately call the AD and let him know your brilliant concept for turning things around. If only HE would have thought of this years ago.

I never said it was simple, but the fact that every other "have not" in our league has done it should be inspiring to fans, players, coaches, etc. This fact alone should render quite a few Cyclone excuses obsolete because its not like any of those other schools were loaded with football tradition, history or resources when they made their runs either.

 

[kingcy]

There were very winnable games this team played last year that they got beat in, even blew out in.

As for the attendance the last game. Most of the fans that were there were very negative towards the season. Most of us showed up because as Cyclone fans that is what we do.

 

[Havs]

There were very winnable games this team played last year that they got beat in, even blew out in.

The reason most are so mad when it comes to this football program.

 

[Stormin]

The reason most are so mad when it comes to this football program.

Mad??........I am not mad. I am disappointed. Frustrated. But why would I be mad? Get some anger management counseling.

 

[Section110]

A lot of people on this forum greatly overestimate how much we Fanatics actually matter in the grand scheme of things.

On the World Wide Interweb feedback and discussion from customers or fans of any product is what they like to call the "The Vocal 1%". For arguments sake, let's boost that number to 5%.

If half of us here, 2.5% of Iowa State's entire fan base, are on CycloneFanatic hating on fellow fans I would like to say those are pretty good numbers. 97.5% of the fan base is composed enough and emotionally stable enough to not be negative nancies and ***** endlessly on the Internet about "pointless things".

Good post. I agree with everything that you said, but I would add one thing. A lot of the people who post on message boards are diehard fans. Which means you're talking about the guys and gals who will likely buy tickets no matter what. They care enough about the team to discuss them on a daily basis. The vast majority of people who buy tickets are not that type of fan. Which also means the vast majority are more prone to canceling their tickets if the product on the field doesn't start to represent a competitive football team.

I agree that Cyclone fans as a whole have been great these past few years. I think they've probably given Rhoads more support than he even deserves (that's just my opinion). However, if he doesn't turn things around quick I think a lot of them are to the point where they will walk away and stop spending their money. Not many on this site will do that, but like you said, the people on this site only represent a very small percentage of the fan base.

 

[Stormin]

Good post. I agree with everything that you said, but I would add one thing. A lot of the people who post on message boards are diehard fans. Which means you're talking about the guys and gals who will likely buy tickets no matter what. They care enough about the team to discuss them on a daily basis. The vast majority of people who buy tickets are not that type of fan. Which also means the vast majority are more prone to canceling their tickets if the product on the field doesn't start to represent a competitive football team.

I agree that Cyclone fans as a whole have been great these past few years. I think they've probably given Rhoads more support than he even deserves (that's just my opinion). However, if he doesn't turn things around quick I think a lot of them are to the point where they will walk away and stop spending their money. Not many on this site will do that, but like you said, the people on this site only represent a very small percentage of the fan base.

Senior starting QB transferring. Players transferring. And their fans go to their rivals' message boards. Pathetic.

http://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sp...tball-tickets-challenging-sell-iowa/23465031/

IOWA CITY, Ia. – Fan angst over the state of the University of Iowa's football program is undeniable following a disappointing 7-6 record in 2014."I fully understand why there's unrest," Iowa athletic director Gary Barta said. "None of us are happy with the way things turned out."
Now, the athletic department takes on the challenge of keeping season ticket-holders coming back to Kinnick Stadium. And they do so with data from a survey of Football Bowl Subdivision schools that showed just 64 percent of Iowa's 2014 season ticket-holders who responded were likely to renew.

 

[Section110]

Senior starting QB transferring. Players transferring. And their fans go to their rivals' message boards. Pathetic.

http://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sp...tball-tickets-challenging-sell-iowa/23465031/

Great link. That proves Iowa fans aren't going to support their team if they don't like the direction it's headed. Guess what? That's me. I'm not renewing my season tickets until they show me they are serious about winning again. I've spent enough money and seen enough mediocrity.

Stay on topic though please.

 

[Stormin]

Great link. That proves Iowa fans aren't going to support their team if they don't like the direction it's headed. Guess what? That's me. I'm not renewing my season tickets until they show me they are serious about winning again. I've spent enough money and seen enough mediocrity.

Stay on topic though please.

Great. But we Cyclones do not need frustrated Hawkeye fans to try and solicit Cyclone fans to do the same thing.

Read today's Monday Musings. Sounds like the Defensive Line should be pretty good according to Chris Williams. Demond Tucker is the real deal. Taylor and Pierson are solid at Defensive End. And Jordan Harris is playing very well at MLB. The Defense will be much improved.

 

[BryceC]

ISU fans don't need convincing. A significant # already didn't renew before last year. Who knows what this year will bring.

 

[Section110]

Great. But we Cyclones do not need frustrated Hawkeye fans to try and solicit Cyclone fans to do the same thing.

Read today's Monday Musings. Sounds like the Defensive Line should be pretty good according to Chris Williams. Demond Tucker is the real deal. Taylor and Pierson are solid at Defensive End. And Jordan Harris is playing very well at MLB. The Defense will be much improved.

I did read it and you know what I did with that information? I wiped it away with some toilet paper and flushed it. I've read enough preseason sunshine pumping to know it means absolutely nothing in terms of predicting what's going to happen when the season arrives.

By the way, defensive improvement is pretty much guaranteed when you're one of the worst in college football. There's only one direction you can go.

 

[Havs]

People defending Paul and the last two years are the negative ones in this whole argument. They are the ones who believe ISU can only achieve so much.

The positive ones are the ones who believe its possible at Iowa State to rise to new heights, and are holding the program accountable for a lackluster 5-19 last two seasons.

 

[Stormin]

People defending Paul and the last two years are the negative ones in this whole argument. They are the ones who believe ISU can only achieve so much.

The positive ones are the ones who believe its possible at Iowa State to rise to new heights, and are holding the program accountable for a lackluster 5-19 last two seasons.

So WHAT are YOU doing to help ISU achieve the lofty goals you have set for them?

 

[Wesley]

We beat Iowa. What more is there to do?

Good point. Once in awhile we beat UNI for frosting on the cake.

 

[Wesley]

People defending Paul and the last two years are the negative ones in this whole argument. They are the ones who believe ISU can only achieve so much.

The positive ones are the ones who believe its possible at Iowa State to rise to new heights, and are holding the program accountable for a lackluster 5-19 last two seasons.

Some of the positive ones belive we can win four or five of our first six games. That would be a hoot. Might garner some votes in the polls if we win all six.

 

[Stormin]

Most definitely could result in votes for the polls since one of those victories would be over a potential National Championship team according to this.

http://cfn.scout.com/2/1531050.html

 

[GWad]

You are just clueless. Again....did you actually live through those down years with Criner, Walden and early McCarney? If not, you should pipe down immediately because you don't know what you're talking about. Further, if you're not just young...let me refresh your memory with our seasons from 1994-1997 we went 6-37 (with a winless season and a 1 win season in the mix).

So you simply don't know what you're talking about, GWad...anyone can make a mistake, but only a fool persists in his error.

I'm 62 and an ISU Letterman,.....the product on the field the last two years is the worst I have ever seen. No talent. Abysmal program. Your wrong and you're being a **** about it.

 

[Stormin]

I'm 62 and an ISU Letterman,.....the product on the field the last two years is the worst I have ever seen. No talent. Abysmal program. Your wrong and you're being a **** about it.

This is not the worst we have ever had at Iowa State. The last years of Walden and early years of DMac were much worse. The 2003 Cyclone team was not good at all either. And the 2006-2008 football teams certainly were not definitively better than the last 2 years as well. And that is just the teams from recent memory.

All a person has to do is scan through the season records of Iowa State Football to see that we have had many, many instances of very poor teams in our history.

The four years of 1994-1997 where we won a total of 6 games during those 4 years and only averaged 1.5 wins per season is one of the worst in our history.


http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/iowa-state/

 

[GWad]

This is not the worst we have ever had at Iowa State. The last years of Walden and early years of DMac were much worse. The 2003 Cyclone team was not good at all either. And the 2006-2008 football teams certainly were not definitively better than the last 2 years as well. And that is just the teams from recent memory.

All a person has to do is scan through the season records of Iowa State Football to see that we have had many, many instances of very poor teams in our history.

The four years of 1994-1997 where we won a total of 6 games during those 4 years and only averaged 1.5 wins per season is one of the worst in our history.


http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/iowa-state/

I'm talking over all talent rather than W/L but, HEY, it's a subjective matter of opinion. We can disagree and we can live with that. At least your not being a **** about it like Mesa.