*** ASST. COACH SEARCH THREAD: Wed, June 10th ***

[Rhoadhoused]

What? He doesn't really have an option. He just signed his contract, he wants to be here. The one with a choice is Prohm. It's his choice for Otz to be here or not. There is literally zero reason to give him a raise right now. Zero.

Wait, you know he can leave, right? He can go coach another team.

If we want to keep him, there certainly is plenty of logic in offering a raise if that's what it takes.

Now, if Prohm doesn't want him that much, don't offer it. Maybe he would like to keep Otz but only at his current contract, who knows.

But it isn't like TJ has no leverage here if we are assuming we want him back.

 

[acgclone]

If TJ is making $240k, do you seriously think you can get an equal or better recruiter for less than say $275k? Maybe, maybe not. Chew was making $275k, Fuller was making $325k.


Guys that can recruit can command a high salary. Plus it would be silly to bicker over $25-40K with a guy who you leaning towards hiring for the HC position 3 weeks ago.

 

[eddiepishammerd]

If he leaves by his choice, he doesn't get paid.

I know, I was talking about if he left after his 1 year contract was up.

 

[RustShack]

I'm glad you bozos aren't the ones making this choice.

 

[acgclone]

I'm glad you bozos aren't the ones making this choice.

And the same could be said for you

 

[eddiepishammerd]

Because recruiting is not a one year game?
Because nothing tests the "wants to be here" more than going cheap?

Don't be stupid, TJ has plenty of leverage. It is late in the game and we will not get anyone better. He also knows we need him to get guys to sign with ISU in upcoming years, but that he will have plenty of chances to leave prior to them signing. It would be a blow to keep him on staff on bad terms just to see him leave ASAP.

It would be shortsighted to use our leverage for this current year. If you want TJ on staff you don't fret over what is a fairly minimal increase.

Well put. The point I was trying to make. TJ has a good hand if he's playing poker.

 

[swarthmoreCY]

Tj is under contract, no raise necessary. Just don't fire him and the job is still his.

Otherwise known as the shortsighted plan. Hopefully Prohm is thinking more than one year out. Playing chicken with TJ in June over such a small amount is idiotic.

A happy, committed TJ is the only positive outcome- which imo means raise and two-year contract. If Prohm thinks TJ is gone after this one year contract is up, we should cut ties now. TJ knows this. A good replacement for TJ will then cost at least twice as much.

A raise does not guarantee anything, but not giving one has a strong chance of ******* us.

 

[ISU42]

Otherwise known as the shortsighted plan.

Hopefully Prohm is thinking more than one year out. Playing chicken with TJ in June over such a small amount is idiotic. A happy TJ, committed is the only positive outcome- which imo means raise and two-year contract. If Prohm thinks TJ is gone after his contract is up, we should cut ties now. TJ knows this. A good replacement for TJ will then cost at least twice as much.

A raise does not guarantee anything, but not giving has a strong chance of ******* us.

I rarely agree with this guy, but he is right.

 

[Rhoadhoused]

I'm glad you bozos aren't the ones making this choice.

You have no comprehension of leverage.

Why do you care so much about what has to be less than 100k anyway? It is inconsequential to the AD who is saving $1 million per year on the HC salary.

If ISU doesn't care about TJ and can stand to lose him, sure, lowball him.

It's just like any normal salary negotiation.

If you sign up for a job and when you get there the company car they promised isn't there, you have every right to go find another job and if they want you they will increase their offer to keep you. If they don't want you that much they won't.

It's not complicated. And I think it's pretty obvious that if Chew isn't coming, TJ is the best assistant out there that has connections to ISU and/or Prohm.

 

[SNEDDS3]

Lot's of blah blah blah going on in here.

 

[RustShack]

And the same could be said for you

Sure. Even though they hired the coach I said they should, and aren't going to give an assistant they just signed a raise for no reason. But keep on keeping on.

 

[ChrisMWilliams]

Hearing the name Daniyal Robinson a lot today. He's a former G-Mac assistant. Spent time at Houston and Loyola-Chicago.

Also, Charlie Henry to the Bulls is a done deal.

 

[ISU42]

Hearing the name Daniyal Robinson a lot today. He's a former G-Mac assistant. Spent time at Houston and Loyola-Chicago.

Also, Charlie Henry to the Bulls is a done deal.

That's going to go over well.

 

[ripvdub]

Hearing the name Daniyal Robinson a lot today. He's a former G-Mac assistant. Spent time at Houston and Loyola-Chicago.

Also, Charlie Henry to the Bulls is a done deal.

What is Charlie's job? Ast coach or lower?

 

[WastedTalent]

Hearing the name Daniyal Robinson a lot today. He's a former G-Mac assistant. Spent time at Houston and Loyola-Chicago.

Also, Charlie Henry to the Bulls is a done deal.

http://www.loyolaramblers.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/daniyal_robinson_851460.html

 

[cyclones12321]

http://www.loyolaramblers.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/daniyal_robinson_851460.html

He did help recruit/mentor some pretty nice cyclone names. Half which ended up leaving though

 

[acgclone]

He did help recruit/mentor some pretty nice cyclone names. Half which ended up leaving though

Hopefully that was mostly due to Gmac

 

[Bardman]

I don't know about this Daniyal Robinson business. That's a "playing it safe" hire if he goes that route. Nothing about that hire will excite many fans imo.

 

[cyclonepower]

Interesting heard Robinson wasn't well liked by the players when he was here...

 

[Bardman]

I would rather have Mann back on staff than add Robinson for sure.