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Doubt it. Job hopping to a lateral program doesn't help him much. Maybe he can get a HC job, in which case is great because he can gain experience and potentially be Prohm's replacement down the road.
TJ will never be the head coach at Iowa State. I do not see Prohm being replaced anytime soon, hell the guy was named head coach not even a month ago. Prohm wants to be in Ames long term and I expect him to not only maintain strong grasp of his job, but thrive as ISU's HC.
I find it cute that people think that Prohm is going to be here long term. We haven't had a coach stay longer than 5 years in the last 20 years. Fred Hoiberg didn't stay here more than 5 years for god's sake.
I'd bet a lot of money that Prohm isn't our coach in 5 years. Lets just hope it was because he is successful not that he has to get fired.
And Fred Hoiberg was an Iowa State guy and Prohm is a southern guy.
20 years, 6 coaches. All have not lasted more than 5 years and have left for a variety of different reasons. No one should expect Prohm to be here in 5 years. History tells us he'll be gone.
Gotta love (or hate) CF. New coach has not coached his first game, signed his first recruit, or even finished filling out his staff.......and already there is discussion of when and why he might leave.
No. History tells you NOTHING regarding the length of Prohm's tenure. The variables are so differentiated today from what they were in our past...that comparisons are of almost zero value in predicting future coach's time in Ames.
Fred has made this program one of the top 25 jobs in the country...in terms of prestige if not in pay. That changes the entire dynamic. Prohm may stay 25 years, or leave in two...but whichever way it goes will have no relation to ISU's past coaching changes.
The ISU job is now a destination program and only the very elite programs....Kansas, Michigan State, Arizona, Duke, North Carolina, Kentucky....and the NBA...have the pull, barring some unique personal connections, to steal a coach from us.
Fred has made this program one of the top 25 jobs in the country...in terms of prestige if not in pay. That changes the entire dynamic. Prohm may stay 25 years, or leave in two...but whichever way it goes will have no relation to ISU's past coaching changes.
The ISU job is now a destination program and only the very elite programs....Kansas, Michigan State, Arizona, Duke, North Carolina, Kentucky....and the NBA...have the pull, barring some unique personal connections, to steal a coach from us.
You act as if Fred blindsided us. There have been strong tied NBA rumors going on for the past two years. We all accepted at one point Fred was a short term coach.
The reason I believe Prohm stays for 5+, and I truly believe 10+ years is because I believe he's a great HC who can run this program, and because of his humble down to earth personality. Prohm wants to be competing for Final Fours every year, and now that he's at ISU, he has the resources it takes to maintain and build upon a successful program. He talked about wanting a small town feel where he can get involved in the community and build meaningful relationships. Playing in the B12, against the best competition in college basketball was also a big reason he chose to become a Cyclone.
Prohm is also young for a head coach. He has a lot of coaching in front of him and Prohm doesn't strike me for the guy to leave a program for many other coaching gigs including the NBA game. He had a hard time leaving Murray, and wouldn't have left if Iowa State didn't have a top 5 team coming in next year along with the excitement of Hilton Magic. I think it was a perfect match between Iowa State and Prohm. Hopefully Prohm takes command of this program and becomes Iowa State's version of Bill Self, Coach K, Kevin Ollie, etc.
Yup, after Hoiberg leaving, I don't put stock in anyone ever staying at ISU. IF he's successful and a bigger job opens up, he'll jump in a second. The only way I would see that change, is if he's able to string together a couple of final four appearances and actually turn ISU into a destination job. As much as I love ISU, I just don't see that happening.
This. As many have mentioned when we can't even make the ball boy at ISU happy good luck. Sure we ALL knew he wanted to someday coach in the NBA but I still say he's young and he left some unfinished business here.
This is the thing that confuses me about all of this.......what coach at what school in the country wouldn't jump ship, if he's successful and a bigger job opens up? Maybe guys like Coach K, or Calipari, but that's only because they already have 2 of the biggest jobs and most success in college ball. Besides Fred, how many ISU MBB coaches have left for better jobs, with or without their success. Maybe Floyd at the time, but that's about it.
I just get tired of the "woe is me (us)" attitude of some ISU fans.
Why is Hoiberg leaving a surprise? Using the fact Hoiberg left after 5 years as a metric is ignoring several things so that Hoiberg fits some fairytale story you dreamed of.
Coaches move on to other schools, and for almost all schools pretty quickly. In my lifetime though, we have yet to be a stepping stone like that. Floyd is probably the only one that would have ended that way, but the Bulls got him a couple years earlier.
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Maybe Prohm will be different. He waited for a job like this. He looked at this level of coaching and basketball like Fred did the NBA. If he can keep things rolling in Ames there will only be a few jobs better than this one.
But who knows he could leave after a good run next season. You can never trust what a coach says.
Morgan probably would have if he would have had more success at ISU. Seemed he always wanted to be back east somewhere.
Didn't he stay around in Iowa selling satellite cable? I think he would have stayed until he retired.
